Which Railway rifle is better?

[Salem Graves]

I'm currently using a quad railway for my vats commando build but I just rolled what I think are some pretty decent legendaries on another rifle and I'm wondering which you guys think would be better? And if you all like the new rifle better, would it be worth getting explosion damage perks to boost it further?

Current Rifle
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3243045939

New Rifle
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3243045981

Current Build
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3243054660

[LatetotheParty]

I say keep the quad... It has a high fire rate and benefits from the extra ammo

[Sax]

second one is better if you also use rank 5 demolition expert and rank 2 grenadier
Ideally you would want both quad and explosive

[Salem Graves]

Originally posted by Saxony:

second one is better if you also use rank 5 demolition expert and rank 2 grenadier
Ideally you would want both quad and explosive

Yeah I was just thinking to myself that if I got explosive on quad that'd be nuts and then I rolled the second one. But are 7 perks really worth the boost it gets from them?

Edit: Not entirely sure how I'd fit in grenadier, but I could replace gunsmith with demo expert I suppose. Don't know if tank killer is worth dropping for grenadier, but maybe since the gun itself has armor pen?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3243054660

[Sax]

Originally posted by Unremarkable Rat:

Yeah I was just thinking to myself that if I got explosive on quad that'd be nuts and then I rolled the second one. But are 7 perks really worth the boost it gets from them?

Yes absolutely, automatic receiver with the commando perks and tank killer with concentrated fire (for headshots), gunfu (for swapping vats targets on kill), grenadier and demolition expert. You'll be murdering everything in your path and the explosive splash damage will help you tag lots of enemies in events for all the loot you can carry.

for what it's worth this is my explosive commando tank build

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3243057905

[virpyre]

I terms of value. . . the top one is scriptable where as the second could be sold for 5000-8000 maybe 10k if you're lucky.

Generally you want a Q/E/15R if you can get one.

[Gpappysr]

anti armour better

[Salem Graves]

Originally posted by Gpappysr:

anti armour better

I'm liking it so far!

[NIkto Barada]

srym werent railways heavy weapons?

[dbond1]

Originally posted by Unremarkable Rat:

Edit: Not entirely sure how I'd fit in grenadier,

I did it by just using one rank of concentrated fire and kept one of my commando cards at rank 2, which frees up 3 Perception points. Just an idea

You only need to free up two points to max out Grenadier, so maybe try it with a one-point concentrated fire card and see how you like it.

[Salem Graves]

Originally posted by NIkto Barada:

srym werent railways heavy weapons?

It's not a heavy weapon.

Originally posted by dbond1:

Originally posted by Unremarkable Rat:

Edit: Not entirely sure how I'd fit in grenadier,

I did it by just using one rank of concentrated fire and kept one of my commando cards at rank 2, which frees up 3 Perception points. Just an idea

You only need to free up two points to max out Grenadier, so maybe try it with a one-point concentrated fire card and see how you like it.

Concentrated feels important for the added vats accuracy, but I shall give it a try.

[Phantom]

Quad is effectively garbage
Anti armour explosive is decent but its also meh

You really want

Quad Weapon Speed
Quad Explosive (preferred)

With reload as the best third star
-90% weight as the 2nd best third star
15% critical fill rate as the 3rd best third star (if your build has low luck)
25% vats reduction cost as the meh 4th star (its always a noob trap to go for this, its the least effective third perk always)


The next season will have a guaranteed

Double Bloodied +50% critical hit chance +15% vats fill rate railway which might have other benefits and that would be mediocre good... not sure if it has other base stat bonuses (like the nuka launcher having weapon speed, weapon speed, weapon speed lite) not sure if it can be rerolled and keep the double effect

[lockwoodx]

This is why I don't make posts about weapons. "Hey guys isn't this gun neat"?
Them: Naw you neeed quad bloody bolstered bing bang boom whatever so you suck.

[lockwoodx]

The difference between being average joe using what's fun vs bloody boy who kills everthing in 2 shots is the jerk willing to steal the fun from joe schmoe.

[insert food here]

Both are decent. I would keep both. Both are good for different reasons. AA, explosive for tagging and quad for sustained DPS. The quad will benefit from better 2nd and 3rd stars though in the future. Either faster fire, explosive or crit damage for 2nd * and reload for 3rd *.

All railways without quad suffer from small mag size. Explosive however turns the gun into a hit scan weapon with instant projectile travel time which makes sniping or longer range shots very easy.

[Salem Graves]

Originally posted by insert food here:

Both are decent. I would keep both. Both are good for different reasons. AA, explosive for tagging and quad for sustained DPS. The quad will benefit from better 2nd and 3rd stars though in the future. Either faster fire, explosive or crit damage for 2nd * and reload for 3rd *.

All railways without quad suffer from small mag size. Explosive however turns the gun into a hit scan weapon with instant projectile travel time which makes sniping or longer range shots very easy.

I didn’t realize that it was now hit scan, but that’s good to know!