Why does the Electro Enforcer suck?

[Tyler McRae]

I'm talking damage-wise. It's one of my favorite weapons in this game, thus far. For my 2-handed melee build, I've been running the Auto-Axe, Oathbreaker (Until I get the regular warglaive plan), and the Sheepsquatch Staff. But the Electro Enforcer is just... factually worse than every one. I feel like I'm doing almost half the damage. What's up with that!?

[PotatoBasket]

Isn't it one handed?
Also, get the mods.
Also, it sucks. You might like the cattle prod or security baton better but honestly it's all the same ball park. Sheepquatch modded club (one hand) is the way to go. Staff with fire and Friendly fire is the best if you wanna run around as a Cultist Priest

[Tyler McRae]

Publicado originalmente por PotatoBasket:

Isn't it one handed?
Also, get the mods.
Also, it sucks. You might like the cattle prod or security baton better but honestly it's all the same ball park. Sheepquatch modded club (one hand) is the way to go. Staff with fire and Friendly fire is the best if you wanna run around as a Cultist Priest :VBOY:

It's Two-Handed. But it does far less damage than my War Glaive, even modded (I've got the Overcharged and Spiked mods.) It's just... bad. Also, I'd kill for -any- mods on my Staff, that thing's my favorite weapon, but Free Range just won't spawn. Hell, I'd take it if someone just gave me a modded staff, anymore.

[Sirius]

Publicado originalmente por Tyler McRae:

It's Two-Handed. But it does far less damage than my War Glaive, even modded (I've got the Overcharged and Spiked mods.) It's just... bad.

The Alien weapons are more flavour than actually top-end effectiveness, same with the blaster and desintegrator.

They are fun to use and look fun too, but you will always have "better" options if you are looking for top DPS.

Just how it is, I'm afraid.

Edit: Not gonna lie, I do like the cryo / poison effect on the guns, so it has some utility at least, but yeah not that great.

Edit again:
and to be fair, the same is true for pretty much all other weapons that are not considered meta - this game has a habit of making really cool weapons kinda redundant because they have best-in-category for whatever build, with maybe one or two side options, but ultimately making using anything else not worthwhile when you look at pure stats.
If you want actual options, you need to ignore lower damage on things.

I use the assault rifle on a non-PA full health commando.
Why not the handmade? Because I like how the AR looks with my BoS Recon armor and it does its job, just not as optimally.

[virpyre]

The weapon is modeled after the shock baton from Fallout 3: Mothership Zeta

Electro Enforcer is considered a 2H Weapon

• Damage is calculated by Slugger (Only Expert and Master) & Bloody Mess also each point of STR increases damage by 5%.
  
  
• Enhanced by Collateral Damage, Hack and Slash, Retribution, Ninja,
  Incisor, Martial Artist & Overly Generous.
  
  
• Spiked electro enforcer: 10% armor penetration.
  
  
• Overcharged electro enforcer: Increases base EN Damage 43 / 50 / 56 / 62.
  
  
• Freezing electro enforcer: Adds Freezing Damage.
  
  
• Poisoned electro enforcer: Adds Poison Damage.

[Tyler McRae]

Publicado originalmente por virpyre:

The weapon is modeled after the shock baton from Fallout 3: Mothership Zeta

Electro Enforcer is considered a 2H Weapon

• Damage is calculated by Slugger (Only Expert and Master) & Bloody Mess also each point of STR increases damage by 5%.
  
  
• Enhanced by Collateral Damage, Hack and Slash, Retribution, Ninja,
  Incisor, Martial Artist & Overly Generous.
  
  
• Spiked electro enforcer: 10% armor penetration.
  
  
• Overcharged electro enforcer: Increases base EN Damage 43 / 50 / 56 / 62.
  
  
• Freezing electro enforcer: Adds Freezing Damage.
  
  
• Poisoned electro enforcer: Adds Poison Damage.

Yes, a copypaste from the wiki helps nobody... I'm asking, why is its damage so bad that almost all other two-handed weapons outperform it lmao

[Aradiel]

Enforcer sucks. Use Plasma Cutter

[virpyre]

Publicado originalmente por Tyler McRae:

Publicado originalmente por virpyre:

The weapon is modeled after the shock baton from Fallout 3: Mothership Zeta

Electro Enforcer is considered a 2H Weapon

• Damage is calculated by Slugger (Only Expert and Master) & Bloody Mess also each point of STR increases damage by 5%.
  
  
• Enhanced by Collateral Damage, Hack and Slash, Retribution, Ninja,
  Incisor, Martial Artist & Overly Generous.
  
  
• Spiked electro enforcer: 10% armor penetration.
  
  
• Overcharged electro enforcer: Increases base EN Damage 43 / 50 / 56 / 62.
  
  
• Freezing electro enforcer: Adds Freezing Damage.
  
  
• Poisoned electro enforcer: Adds Poison Damage.

Yes, a copypaste from the wiki helps nobody... I'm asking, why is its damage so bad that almost all other two-handed weapons outperform it lmao

It's a variant of the NPC version which is the original overpowered version from Fallout 3 that does Electrical DOT damage and still has the hidden instant Critical Hit.

Think of it as more of a display weapon for bragging rights, then an actual player weapon. They removed all the important NPC parts to keep it from out performing other melee weapons. In a nutshell it's just a Shock Baton design as 2-Hand with a Fancy skin.

[virpyre]

Naw, there's one called The Invader that actually makes a buzzing noise when you swing it makes me chuckle everytime, the other funny thing about it is in the game files it's called "alienprobe".

[Krumbleskin]

I haven't tried Enforcer but assumed it was a single strike weapon not a sustained charge, would always be weak. I'll have to try one to see.

[Tyler McRae]

Publicado originalmente por HAV-118:

Enforcer sucks. Use Plasma Cutter

Why would I swap from Slugger to... whatever the 1h perks are? Electro Enforcer's a two-handed weapon, and 1-handed weapons are terrible in this game's current balance. I'm just curious why the Electro Enforcer has, like, 80 less power than an Electric-infused War Glaive.

[lockwoodx]

Publicado originalmente por Tyler McRae:

Publicado originalmente por HAV-118:

Enforcer sucks. Use Plasma Cutter

Why would I swap from Slugger to... whatever the 1h perks are? Electro Enforcer's a two-handed weapon, and 1-handed weapons are terrible in this game's current balance. I'm just curious why the Electro Enforcer has, like, 80 less power than an Electric-infused War Glaive.

It's an enforcer not a killer. Non-lethal device.