Doing more damage without grenadier perk?

[Ikit Claw]

I took off my grenadier perk to farm nuked flora and I feel like I've been doing more damage to enemies without it. I got explosive on my mini gun so I'm not sure why the perk would be decreasing my damage output.
Any reason why it feels like grenadier reduces my damage?

[lockwoodx]

Pretty easy to test that.

[Sirius]

Explosive on (not multishot) guns is a bit iffy at best - grenadier shouldn't do that much of a difference, it just affects the explosive portion of the output, which isn't much to begin with. So even with a 5 star Demo perk card doing 60% more damage... Explosive minigun does what per shot? 20? Yeah it's not great even with 60% more of that.

What you might have encountered though could be to do with Glow Sight for example (assuming you run that in a nuke zone) and other resistance reducing affects / mobs getting shredded by other modifiers.

Unless you give actual details on everything, it's just idle speculation, but I'm guessing you just murdered less resistant enemies or something.

Personal experience biased opinion as well, could be I'm dead wrong.

[dbond1]

Not enough warpstone, yes-yes

[soulshiver]

I noticed this on a couple others as well .. as a for instance .. action boy rank 3 is considerably weaker than just the first perk and the 2nd perk sometimes just has no effect.
That one could be fixed by now .. but I don't play this everyday just when I get the itch to shoot ♥♥♥♥ loot ♥♥♥♥ and logout for like 20mins or so
Also this is Bethesda .. don't expect everything to work or not be bugged in some way .. I would test it though more on your end then send the results to QA

[Know Won]

What did you replace it with?
Missing information

[Ikit Claw]

Originally posted by Sirius:

Explosive on (not multishot) guns is a bit iffy at best - grenadier shouldn't do that much of a difference, it just affects the explosive portion of the output, which isn't much to begin with. So even with a 5 star Demo perk card doing 60% more damage... Explosive minigun does what per shot? 20? Yeah it's not great even with 60% more of that.

What you might have encountered though could be to do with Glow Sight for example (assuming you run that in a nuke zone) and other resistance reducing affects / mobs getting shredded by other modifiers.

Unless you give actual details on everything, it's just idle speculation, but I'm guessing you just murdered less resistant enemies or something.

Personal experience biased opinion as well, could be I'm dead wrong.

So I kept switching back and fourth and it might just feel like I do more damage without because it's really hard to see what I'm aiming at with the big explosions. So when I have the grenadier perk on I might be missing a lot of my shots without realizing it because I can't see a thing lol.

[Ikit Claw]

Originally posted by Know Won:

What did you replace it with?
Missing information

I replaced it with the green thumb perk to farm nuked flora

[Ikit Claw]

Originally posted by Sirius:

Explosive on (not multishot) guns is a bit iffy at best - grenadier shouldn't do that much of a difference, it just affects the explosive portion of the output, which isn't much to begin with. So even with a 5 star Demo perk card doing 60% more damage... Explosive minigun does what per shot? 20? Yeah it's not great even with 60% more of that.

What you might have encountered though could be to do with Glow Sight for example (assuming you run that in a nuke zone) and other resistance reducing affects / mobs getting shredded by other modifiers.

Unless you give actual details on everything, it's just idle speculation, but I'm guessing you just murdered less resistant enemies or something.

Personal experience biased opinion as well, could be I'm dead wrong.

Also, my mini gun is a furious legendary so missing my shots constantly is ruining my damage output.
Way easier to hit the target without the grenadier perk because I can see.

[Ikit Claw]

Originally posted by dbond1:

Not enough warpstone, yes-yes

Originally posted by dbond1:

Not enough warpstone, yes-yes

Running around with a MIRV as my secondary because I love my nukes so much

[dbond1]

Haha, yes you do. Doomrockets are the bomb.

Probably not many Warhammer fans round here.