new players, don't do youtube metas

[Nekochan]

First off, if these people were honest, they would show that they have literally every single buff in the game from every single source possible. Those numbers they are getting are not realistic in a normal setting.

Second, most of the builds they use require all those buffs to not instantly suck and make everyone else carry them.

Third, bloodied... unless you have some god rolls going on, you are making everyone else carry you. This is not a newbie friendly build and require specific play styles, perks, gear etc to make it work. I've seen a lot of you sporting bloodied fixers or fixers in general and doing zero damage.

Fourth, the game isn't about meta builds, it's about fun. Those meta builds tend to suck the life out of the game and events, plus a semi casual build is good enough to solo all content.

[Chip Patton]

Originally posted by Admiral Hackett N7:

I completely agree about a Bloodied build. Did play i think it was lvl172 back then a full health build but after farming (back then) for a full set of SS gear and make then as long til i got a full UY 3 star set i did liked.

Did make a totally a new build back then the Bloodied, Commando, Stealth, Crit, VATS build, did also focus on Legendary perk card to get them max out, now they are.

Did farm for a Fixer... a Bloodied one but in my PERSONAL opinion did dump the Fixer and did go for the Handmade which is way better... FOR ME.

Long story short: as a new player you will NOT i repeat NOT doing any good DPS and i'm talking for people below 50 ~ 100 -ish. You need to do a lot before you even be ready.

It's also like some people said a different kind of playing / style. With the right perks you can even be tanky.

Anyway i never ever want another build anymore, sure have different builds but the Bloodied Commando build is my most favorite, specially now with very good weapons that i have.

My new char is only level 75 and likely more tanky than some level 1,000's I've seen but also in a full T-65 set though and 40 of his levels is from farming events for gold.

You can do decent dps under level 100 if you're actually focusing your cards on the weapon you're using (at least until you start adding legendary stat points). If you're doing an even spread of weapons, you're going to be crap, but having heavy, expert heavy, and master heavy weapons, combined with a decent level 50 *** legendary heavy weapon puts you up there with the meta builds.

All of this is achievable before you hit level 100 if you set some clear goals.

[Admiral Hackett [N7]]

Originally posted by Chip Patton:

Originally posted by Admiral Hackett N7:

I completely agree about a Bloodied build. Did play i think it was lvl172 back then a full health build but after farming (back then) for a full set of SS gear and make then as long til i got a full UY 3 star set i did liked.

Did make a totally a new build back then the Bloodied, Commando, Stealth, Crit, VATS build, did also focus on Legendary perk card to get them max out, now they are.

Did farm for a Fixer... a Bloodied one but in my PERSONAL opinion did dump the Fixer and did go for the Handmade which is way better... FOR ME.

Long story short: as a new player you will NOT i repeat NOT doing any good DPS and i'm talking for people below 50 ~ 100 -ish. You need to do a lot before you even be ready.

It's also like some people said a different kind of playing / style. With the right perks you can even be tanky.

Anyway i never ever want another build anymore, sure have different builds but the Bloodied Commando build is my most favorite, specially now with very good weapons that i have.

My new char is only level 75 and likely more tanky than some level 1,000's I've seen but also in a full T-65 set though and 40 of his levels is from farming events for gold.

You can do decent dps under level 100 if you're actually focusing your cards on the weapon you're using (at least until you start adding legendary stat points). If you're doing an even spread of weapons, you're going to be crap, but having heavy, expert heavy, and master heavy weapons, combined with a decent level 50 *** legendary heavy weapon puts you up there with the meta builds.

All of this is achievable before you hit level 100 if you set some clear goals.

Your Bloodied build is almost gone if you are in your PA caus the PA has no UY set. Sure you have some benefits from a Bloodied build specially with the right mutations and perk cards but a Bloodied build is not made for a PA caus like i said no UY exist for your PA.

[Clueless]

My personal Meta in every single mmo i have played is do wtf i wanna do and ignore the you must do this build or that build only cause it works for me/us to win brigade. Not gone wrong so far in it, builds are a good idea to help you get an idea for something if your stuck but like do whatever you enjoy and are having fun with, its your game at the end of the day

[Filthy McSwaggins]

To hell with META, I'm just hunting for a chainsaw with vampire, power attack bonus, and slower breaking (honestly could be any 3rd). Throw a long bow bar (i like it better than the double, despite dps) on there with the flames.... Ohhhhh Yeahhhhhhhhhh

edit: I do uh... have some caps... if anyone's got one laying around =D

[Hans CakeStealer]

I like when level 700s tell me how easy it is too do a missile silo, while they are kitted out with the latest and best possible gear. The Devs of this game absolutely fail at the casual audience which is the very bread and butter of any MMO, they think lets make everything entirely convoluted and have spikes of difficulty appear from no where. This game should of remained popular but the lead team fails to read the room.

[XBigBaddaBoomX]

I ran a bloodied pa build from lvl 200ish to 550ish before i figured the b commando build out......i enjoy the meta atm lol

[Fairy]

This is honestly the best post I've seen all week long. Everything in the Youtube world is about Bloodied Build.
There are SO many different ways to make a build. I play full health and I have more fun than I ever did with Bloodied because I can actually take a punch.Also, it frees up room to explore other perk cards.
"Watch me one shot this super mutant with 1k+ damage, bro!" You really don't need those numbers to one shot something...Use your VATS. Have fun!

[Fairy]

Originally posted by Suds:

I started a few weeks ago and im almost level 90, I am a shotgun vat crit build which seems to be good for casual play, but I wanted to know any good recommendations for builds for boss fights such as earle or scorch queen specifically, because I feel like I have a nerf gun and range is already an issue on top of that. I know this early on I'm not supposed to solo these fights which is why I have not tried, but even with other players, I feel like I mitigate no damage.

It some times just be like that. I ran Shogun for a long time and World Bosses like the Queen make it feel like you're just tickling it. Shotgun has less range than other guns so when it's flying around you really aren't gonna go much since you loose accuracy. If you're using VATS I suggest you focus fire on crippling limbs (Wings on the Queen). Cripple wings on flying beasty's, makes it more likely they will land on the ground, if not they will flap about and taunt you.
You're helping out the squad even if it doesn't look like you're doing much. Just keep in mind World Bosses are tanky and aren't meant to be soloed, ever. Everybody there slapping down the damage is helping :)

[Badddy]

Originally posted by Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC:

No Armor, No Clothes, Vampire Chainsaw should be meta.

Thats what im playing, without the clothes part

[NovaMew]

Originally posted by Nekochan:

First off, if these people were honest, they would show that they have literally every single buff in the game from every single source possible. Those numbers they are getting are not realistic in a normal setting.

Second, most of the builds they use require all those buffs to not instantly suck and make everyone else carry them.

Third, bloodied... unless you have some god rolls going on, you are making everyone else carry you. This is not a newbie friendly build and require specific play styles, perks, gear etc to make it work. I've seen a lot of you sporting bloodied fixers or fixers in general and doing zero damage.

Fourth, the game isn't about meta builds, it's about fun. Those meta builds tend to suck the life out of the game and events, plus a semi casual build is good enough to solo all content.

this TBH I use those guides as something to work towards myself, or take parts I like and do my own thing

[Singrave]

Bloodied meta is not about 1000dmg oneshots.
It's mostly about killing BIG THINGS faster and not running from them in circles.
I've started as stealth Rifleman and it's doing good in adventure mode, but i suck in daily ops and some other events.
I see all those PA heavy weapon builds running near me just obliterating everything and i ask myself - what's wrong with my stealthy rifleman build?

I've tried expeditions once and it took me soo much time to just complete one :-/

I'm level 87 now and that's why i watch youtube for some tips :-/

[Gwerlum]

I like to try different builds, now try to complete my explosion immortal build with M79 grenade launcher. Now im immortal but i dont know how to increase damage.
I can explode whole arena but i need 5-6 shots for kiling supermutants...
I think now explosions not meta at all.

[Fairy]

Originally posted by Singrave:

Bloodied meta is not about 1000dmg oneshots.
It's mostly about killing BIG THINGS faster and not running from them in circles.
I've started as stealth Rifleman and it's doing good in adventure mode, but i suck in daily ops and some other events.
I see all those PA heavy weapon builds running near me just obliterating everything and i ask myself - what's wrong with my stealthy rifleman build?

I've tried expeditions once and it took me soo much time to just complete one :-/

I'm level 87 now and that's why i watch youtube for some tips :-/

There's nothing wrong with it if that's the play style you like. Don't shame you build if it's what you like. Some people like to go zip zip zooom through everything and that's fine if that's what they like to do.
Though Bloodied meta isn't necessary. The huge numbers they show off on youtube videos isn't realistic number for average gamers, they are doing it for views and to grab attention.

Here's the perfect example, I was looking up YouTube videos to give me a starting place on my Thirst Zapper build. The Youtuber was (of course) talking about a bloodied build and showing off these insanely huge numbers. He showed which Specials you add to. Here is the problem with showing off the special stats. He did NOT include his legendary perks. So any newbie that goes and makes this build is gonna be left confused as hell as to why their Specials aren't the same numbers as what he shows off in the next frame. They intentionally leave stuff out of videos to make themselves look like some kind of bad arse.

I run a full health, unarmed melee build and I Solo Expeditions and Daily ops just fine. My armor isn't even a matching set yet.

[Ruck]

With the way the cards are unlocked and how you can unintentionally delay your desired build quite a bit by picking poorly, i think it makes some sense to review online "meta" builds to get an idea of what you're building towards before you spend your first 50 levels in shotguns and dog food cuisine or something. I paused around lvl 30-40 to try and decide on a proper build. Now around lvl 100 i've got a decently dialed in build with plenty of room to grow and improve as I work through legendary perk unlocks and finding better gear.

This youtube guide below is the one I used. Helped me start to separate the wheat from the chaff as far as important cards to build for an auto rifle. He goes over the final meta build with full legendaries, but then steps back and spends far more time going over the newbie friendly version. Guides like this are great for new players, imo. There's way too much to understand about a game like this, especially when they start making you choose build perks right out the gate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azl0JlDCuT8

[Yewbacca]

Originally posted by TotalTriscuit:

Originally posted by teksuo:

youtube tells me to go bloodied commando stealthy.

seems like a good advice tbh. i just gotta get that bloodied part down heh

And I guarantee they got that advice from somewhere else and they're trying to pass it off as their own idea.

I also find the idea of someone else telling you what to play in a game with absurd variety and freedoms like Fallout or Elder Scrolls where almost anything can be viable is silly.

For players that just want to play the game their own style, I agree with your points. But for someone like me, new to the Fallout franchise, the game can be a bit... overwhelming.
Having someone steer you towards a certain point can create a goal for you. I like that guidance, because not everything is explained that well in some games.

That being said, most of the times I only watch 'beginner' guides, and eventually modify or completely scrap a build when I'm higher level.