People mad about fallout 1st buyers

[Monkey Punisher]

Are a really curious spicies.
You can randomly emote from fallout frist and you get a random lvl 23 trying to clowining you for spending money in something you like.

Like, seriously, what you expect bethesda to do if people doesnt buy fallout 1st? magically giving you all the ♥♥♥♥ you want for free? No, they are shutting down servers.
But here they are complaining and playing the game as thay were obligated.

Edit: title for being a bit misleading on my point

[Niebaum]

Couldnt care less what anyone thinks about how i spend the money i earn.
As long as they are not paying for my 1st, they can jog on and stfu.
Mind your own buisness.

[PotatoBasket]

Originally posted by XANDERcanDRAW:

Oh there's people gets mad on players with 1st pass? When is the next Pass? or I can still max the pass if I'm going to buy?

I don't know of anyone actually mad at 1st buyers? Like, it's not that they're mad you're dong it. Social justice has relevant fronts to attend so the only thing that would be applicable would be some deranged causes - none of which are legitimate anger.

Originally posted by KIRIKU:

That was just a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fallout joke. Jesus, you people are some of the bitter ♥♥♥♥ I have encounter lol

Like complementary colors, flavors would be joyless without their contrast. Do we have reason to be all sugar? Online vitriol will kill that real quick. But poisonous attitudes harm everyone; no cyanide in the sugar here, just a little radiation..

The sarcasm is so deep often regular visitors can't even tell if we're being serious or facetious (~75% of the time.) I like it better that way. Plus, the users that layer meanings are entertaining content - bonus hilarity when it's entirely accidental.

[Sythalin]

Originally posted by Jeff Kaos:

Fallout 76 is an MMO. And as long as MMOs have been around most of them have a subscription fee so I'm not really sure why this is controversial. Okay, I get that the Scrap Box thing should probably be included for all players but I'm still not sure why everyone is so angry over Fallout 1st. Do people seriously expect Bethesda to continue supporting an online game with regular updates forever? That just doesn't make any sense.

The short answer: yes

Long Answer: Today's gamers feel they are entitled to everything for free simply because their mommies and daddies had some unprotected fun time and they were born. This is the same lot that think they can walk into a car dealship as an "influencer" and should get a free Tesla by paying with "exposure".

As you said, MMO subscriptions to finance continued content and updates has been a standard for as long as MMOs have existed, and rightfully so. If they didn't, every gaming company that offers live services, not just Bethesda, would be bankrupt within a year due to server costs alone.

[SSG Anhor]

None of these whiners would lift a single finger for an unknown third party without payment.
But they can attack unknown third parties (Bethesda) because they continually make money for their regular updates and innovations.
Every move costs money! All around the world! Setting up servers, maintaining them, installing updates etc. pp.
All time that needs to be invested. And every halfway normal person knows: time = money.
Bethesda didn't start out as an aid organization, it's a company that only has one goal: make provit. Just like every other company in the world.
Instead of flaunting your apparent poverty through whining posts, I would just keep my mouth shut.
And no, it is NOT pay to win! I do NOT get any better weapons through my subscription. I am NOT more resistant to harm because of the subscription. The only thing I get from it: I can show that I have it ;)

Holy moly!

[Palpy]

Live service games will always have some kind of subscription, that's just the way it is. Whether you think their model is greedy or not is a different discussion, but if a game is going to have yearly support it will have to make recurring income. A compnay isn't going to just allocate dev time to a game for years and get no return on investment.

[Corsica]

Originally posted by MarioDragon:

do i pay for Fallout 1st when I play this game? yes

is it still a scam for what it offers? yes. but I like the game so I'm happy to support its possible future, however small and bleak. maybe it'll get more attention now. but be realistic, nickel and diming their players for items that should be in-game drops is something they've done since Oblivion horse armor. let's hope they don't lock all the Daedra shrines in Elder Scrolls 6 behind the Creation Club Shop lmao

Its 6 years old. Small and bleak...lmfao they have made there money back 10x. Kinda sounds like you just downloaded it.

[Mightylink]

They wouldn't need to support servers if they just made the damn game work offline...

And with so many of them shutting down left and right it's only a matter of time before Fallout 76 falls under the game preservation controversy too.

[ah_puch]

Originally posted by Mightylink:

They wouldn't need to support servers if they just made the damn game work offline...

And with so many of them shutting down left and right it's only a matter of time before Fallout 76 falls under the game preservation controversy too.

Fallout 76 is an online only game and everything you did and wasted money on will be taken away, eventually.

Fallout 4 is a far superior game in every which way and nothing can be taken from you. There are no servers, it can't be shutdown. You can't be banned. Can't be hacked. There is no lag. Can play it on a laptop or steam deck in the middle of nowhere without internet. Don't need to waste money on trivial stuff like ammo, inventory space, in game money etc.

Brilliant monetization though, makes perfect business sense to take advantage of players who are aware of none of the above. Keep spending money on furniture and skins rofl ;)

[Chupacabro]

I pay for 1st, because i have a job and $12 a month, isn't something im concerned about. I get private servers and some bonus ♥♥♥♥ i can use while in game with friends? ♥♥♥♥ it, here's some money.

Imagine seething over $12 lmao!

[Urban Legend]

Originally posted by ah_puch:

Originally posted by Mightylink:

They wouldn't need to support servers if they just made the damn game work offline...

And with so many of them shutting down left and right it's only a matter of time before Fallout 76 falls under the game preservation controversy too.

Fallout 76 is an online only game and everything you did and wasted money on will be taken away, eventually.

Fallout 4 is a far superior game in every which way and nothing can be taken from you. There are no servers, it can't be shutdown. You can't be banned. Can't be hacked. There is no lag. Can play it on a laptop or steam deck in the middle of nowhere without internet. Don't need to waste money on trivial stuff like ammo, inventory space, in game money etc.

Brilliant monetization though, makes perfect business sense to take advantage of players who are aware of none of the above. Keep spending money on furniture and skins rofl ;)

Unless we ARE aware and just value different things than you do. I don't have to be ignorant of reality or intentionally live in a fantasy world to prefer to play 76 instead of 4, modded or otherwise. I like playing with other players, I like the fact that there is some degree of accountability (IE that people CAN be banned if they cross a line), I like that there are changes and updates, and I am willing to pay my small part to help keep all that alive. I am also very happy for the people who can't be bothered and would rather play 4 for free, and I don't have to pretend something is wrong with them because they don't like what I like.

[Chupacabro]

Originally posted by Mightylink:

They wouldn't need to support servers if they just made the damn game work offline...

And with so many of them shutting down left and right it's only a matter of time before Fallout 76 falls under the game preservation controversy too.

They have offline Fallout games.

They're called Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 4, Fallout tactics, and a TBA Fallout 5. And that's not counting the Fallout Pinball or Fallout Mobile Game either.

Sorry that 1 Fallout game in the 11 Fallout games released, wasn't 100% how you wanted it.

[NovaMew]

Originally posted by ah_puch:

Originally posted by Mightylink:

They wouldn't need to support servers if they just made the damn game work offline...

And with so many of them shutting down left and right it's only a matter of time before Fallout 76 falls under the game preservation controversy too.

Keep spending money on furniture and skins rofl ;)

I will thanks :D

[ah_puch]

Originally posted by Jeff Kaos:

Fallout 76 is an MMO

It's not. If you can't tell the difference between games like Diablo, Destiny, Fallout 76, GTA Online and WoW, FFXIV, ESO then you probably think Rocket League and Tekken 8 are mmos too xD

[NovaMew]

Originally posted by Urban Legend:

Originally posted by ah_puch:

Fallout 76 is an online only game and everything you did and wasted money on will be taken away, eventually.

Fallout 4 is a far superior game in every which way and nothing can be taken from you. There are no servers, it can't be shutdown. You can't be banned. Can't be hacked. There is no lag. Can play it on a laptop or steam deck in the middle of nowhere without internet. Don't need to waste money on trivial stuff like ammo, inventory space, in game money etc.

Brilliant monetization though, makes perfect business sense to take advantage of players who are aware of none of the above. Keep spending money on furniture and skins rofl ;)

Unless we ARE aware and just value different things than you do. I don't have to be ignorant of reality or intentionally live in a fantasy world to prefer to play 76 instead of 4, modded or otherwise. I like playing with other players, I like the fact that there is some degree of accountability (IE that people CAN be banned if they cross a line), I like that there are changes and updates, and I am willing to pay my small part to help keep all that alive. I am also very happy for the people who can't be bothered and would rather play 4 for free, and I don't have to pretend something is wrong with them because they don't like what I like.

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[NovaMew]

Originally posted by ah_puch:

Originally posted by Jeff Kaos:

Fallout 76 is an MMO

It's not. If you can't tell the difference between games like Diablo, Destiny, Fallout 76, GTA Online and WoW, FFXIV, ESO then you probably think Rocket League and Tekken 8 are mmos too xD

they are. MMO doesnt just mean those, in the industry it literally means anything thats online and played with others.