Fallout 76 > Fallout 4

[Serulean]

Change my mind. Main story, side quests, writing, locations, visuals, gameplay, loot, enemy variety, everything feels better.

[Heathy]

seeing as they didn't do the same dialogue system as FO4, I think that is 1+ in 76's favour, its online so the base building aspect feels like it has a bit more worth, at least other people can see what you've built. it feels like its balanced better for the longer term, the single player games do tend to eventually run out of things to do and reasons to play, 76 is similar but its geared toward you being able to play a single character, basically indefinitely, as someone who likes a permanent main, its great for that.

I think 76 could have been worst, if they had used a more mmo orientated game engine, maybe eso's or if it was a tab target mmo. that would have likely been worst. the creation engine is showing age, but I think the game would have felt lacking if it wasn't as interactable as the other creation engine games. for as buggy as it is, there aren't many games that have these types of high interactablity, lots of objects and objects with some level of physics, this isn't something you'd typically see in multiplayer games its always been easier to just not.

I still think people were just annoyed that this isn't fallout 5 and it is mostly, just more fallout 4. it is multiplayer fallout 4.

[lockwoodx]

They're both the same imo and tbh the most fascinating thing about Fallout isn't the world or story... it's watching what bethesda devs can do with a decades old engine.

[Niche Defoe]

i get a feeling they intended to have f4 as a coop game, with a family of cryo preserved people searching for their shon. BUUUT they barely put f4 together, so multiplayer bits of code becme a lazy foundation for a new game.

Its just my opinion, I have nohing to base it on but speculation.

[Niche Defoe]

I got this hunch after looking into f4 plot. Its not good - like someone had to completlely reassemble bits of story after a massive change in game direction

[lockwoodx]

Fallout1 = find the water chip
Fallout2 = find the GECK
Fallout3 = find your father
Fallout4 = find your child
Fallout New Vegas = find the assh*ole who shot you in the head
Fallout 76 = find the nukes

[Hunk]

Originally posted by Serulean:

Change my mind. Main story, side quests, writing, locations, visuals, gameplay, loot, enemy variety, everything feels better.

just out of curiosity because i really dont get it genuinely i dont understand this behaviour you came here on the steam forum of fallout 76 and type your opinion negatively about the game you know there is a feature steam has called ''reviews'' right ? you can post your opinions about the game there give it a thumbs down and express why you don't like it instead of doing the reasonable thing why come here and trigger everyone on this forum ??whats your goal here i really dont get it do you really think we CARE about your insignificant opinion ? the sheer stupidity/ignorance of this post itself is brain deteriorating

[Calistrasza]

Originally posted by Serulean:

Change my mind.

To what end, exactly? You like what you like. That has absolutely zero effect on what I happen to like or dislike. So you like this game better. Cool. Have fun.

[Calistrasza]

Originally posted by Hunk:

Originally posted by Serulean:

Change my mind. Main story, side quests, writing, locations, visuals, gameplay, loot, enemy variety, everything feels better.

just out of curiosity because i really dont get it genuinely i dont understand this behaviour you came here on the steam forum of fallout 76 and type your opinion negatively about the game you know there is a feature steam has called ''reviews'' right ? you can post your opinions about the game there give it a thumbs down and express why you don't like it instead of doing the reasonable thing why come here and trigger everyone on this forum ??whats your goal here i really dont get it do you really think we CARE about your insignificant opinion ? the sheer stupidity/ignorance of this post itself is brain deteriorating

I will gently point out that this post is saying Fallout 76 is better than Fallout 4. That's what the > symbol means. "Greater than".

[Hunk]

Originally posted by Calistrasza:

Originally posted by Hunk:

just out of curiosity because i really dont get it genuinely i dont understand this behaviour you came here on the steam forum of fallout 76 and type your opinion negatively about the game you know there is a feature steam has called ''reviews'' right ? you can post your opinions about the game there give it a thumbs down and express why you don't like it instead of doing the reasonable thing why come here and trigger everyone on this forum ??whats your goal here i really dont get it do you really think we CARE about your insignificant opinion ? the sheer stupidity/ignorance of this post itself is brain deteriorating

I will gently point out that this post is saying Fallout 76 is better than Fallout 4. That's what the > symbol means. "Greater than".

sarcasm aside you really ok with this ??? aren't you tired/sick of seeing sutch posts EVERY SİNGLE DAY for the past 5 years ?? there is a platform called reddit if you wanna cry your heart out about it like i said there is a review system for expressing your experience about the game the purpose of steam forums are exchanging information between players about the game not a whine page

[insert food here]

Originally posted by JG Wentsworth:

Fallout1 = find the water chip
Fallout2 = find the GECK
Fallout3 = find your father
Fallout4 = find your child
Fallout New Vegas = find the assh*ole who shot you in the head
Fallout 76 = find the nukes

And here i was thinking Fallout 76 was find the bugs. Well that did not work as there were so many they took over the game.

[hawkeye]

I'm another one who thinks there should be a ban on certain types of content in these forums. I started playing 76 because the FO4 forum has been taken over by ferals. There is a high risk that the same will happen here.

Comparing games is a pointless exercise, especially in forums. Individuals have different tastes. In the 1600s someone came up with the line "One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison". It holds true today. The quality of a product is a personal view.

And if 76 is > 4 or not, who actually cares? No-one.

[Serath]

Originally posted by JG Wentsworth:

Fallout1 = find the water chip
Fallout2 = find the GECK
Fallout3 = find your father
Fallout4 = find your child
Fallout New Vegas = find the assh*ole who shot you in the head
Fallout 76 = find the nukes

You're not wrong there:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ffallout-new-vegas-still-the-best-v0-1qk7wzwnncvc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dc45d1499ba7fc1d4dbb717e95f5c9a048ee3f775

Though with 76, I like the fact that it's not find "anything" to be honest. You're not trying to save the world or save someone. There's no one ultimate goal or major threat that if taken down will either save the world/a community, (water chip) or solve your personal problems. (Family gone missing.) It's kind of like a more chilll Fallout sitcom that gradually gets new episodes from time to time.

[Serath]

Originally posted by Serulean:

Change my mind. Main story, side quests, writing, locations, visuals, gameplay, loot, enemy variety, everything feels better.

Mods, meaning the amount of content variety I would say is 76's biggest downfall. If it had mods, (the REAL kind) THEN I would say it's better than FO4, because official co-op...yes please. Sorry, but no amount of developers can ever churn out the amount of content an entire modding community can. And by its very nature, 76 can't and will never have mods either.

And what's up with the lack of randomization with the repeatable quests? Seriously, I can only do the same quest that plays in the same location that happens in the same way every single time so much. I don't expect a grand story out of them, but jesus, can we not change it up a little?

People complain aboute Preston cause he's a meme General another settlement blah blah blah, but at least he and all the other factions gave you something to do from a list of many locations every time you talked to them when you've done everything else in the game, and with 76 you're meant to play your characters forever due to content updates. Yeah, the Camp allies and faction quests are the equivalent of that, but in FO4 you didn't have to wait 24 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hours to do the next one either.

[Calistrasza]

Originally posted by Hunk:

Originally posted by Calistrasza:

I will gently point out that this post is saying Fallout 76 is better than Fallout 4. That's what the > symbol means. "Greater than".

sarcasm aside you really ok with this ??? aren't you tired/sick of seeing sutch posts EVERY SİNGLE DAY for the past 5 years ?? there is a platform called reddit if you wanna cry your heart out about it like i said there is a review system for expressing your experience about the game the purpose of steam forums are exchanging information between players about the game not a whine page

I'm fine with it. I don't get worked up over internet forums. Likely because I was born and grew up before internet forums were a thing, I suppose. I've slowly watched the world degrade, largely due to social media, into people believing the world revolves solely around them as individuals and somehow owes them everything. This kind of post just doesn't bother me, because I don't let it bother me.

The purpose of forums aside, there will always be the "people" factor. You can't choose what other people do, you can only choose how you'll react to what they do. I choose not to get upset over it, because it doesn't matter how I feel about it. You were correct in one thing you said: Genuinely, no one cares.

[pRaX]

Imho they are equally mediocre. At least nowadays.