Appalachia Lore

[The Bayroog]

So the game has you dropping 3+ quest related nukes, uploading Skynet to the internet, and acting as the envoy for every slob leaving Pennsylvania.

Do you think West Virginia even exists by Fallout 3?

[Spartykins]

probably not

[intlgunmonkey]

Given how they condense and skew the map, if there was a Burning Sea to the west of FO3’s map, it would be a perfect progression for Appalachia.

[Mooman]

The unofficial or maybe just delayed lore to the end of Appalachia was it was destroyed by a fire storm. Only 1 person survived in the Prototype Hellfire armour.

This was part of the Nuclear Winter battle royale. There is also another possibility.

The Emissary you can find randomly during the Alien Invasion event hints that due to all the nukes, the background radiation is now high enough to 'see' things.

Vault 76 dwellers have attracted the attention of things they shouldn't have...

[Phantom]

Well I'm 80% sure that the 'vault dwellers' of fo76 are in a simulation (nuclear winter strongly hints at this)

70% its a vault tek one with someone feeding data into it over time for giggles

30% its onboard a grey alien ship and you are prisoners as they feed data into it to see how you respond




the remaining 20%? you are free wandering outside of a simulation interacting with the world BUT

5% this is actually happening as we experience it

45% you have been taken over by the scorched plague and are under their control and you only think some stuff is happening but its not

15% its the traveler interloper controlling you feeding you false visions or making you do what it wants

15% its the mothman doing the same

10% its vault tek running a MK ultra style control and your programming is the mission settings (al la would you kindly)

10% its the enclave doing the same

[globefish23]

Originally posted by The Bayroog:

Do you think West Virginia even exists by Fallout 3?

Vault 76 is mentioned in both FO3 and FO4.

[The Bayroog]

Originally posted by globefish23:

Originally posted by The Bayroog:

Do you think West Virginia even exists by Fallout 3?

Vault 76 is mentioned in both FO3 and FO4.

Where?

[PotatoBasket]

I'm actually with Phantom on most viable lore based on how the game operates and the "groundhog day" style of "world progression". This is super lame, though. However it makes a great deal of sense that a control vault would run simulations for their "best and brightest" residents in a safe cryosleep rather than release them into a still-scorched wasteland. Not much to build from the game content but if they're planning to wipe it away with nukings anyway.... might as well.

Given the number of nukes dropped and the factional draws that exist for 76ers to choose freely from it gives a lot of future character/faction options to use in series lore moving forward. I like the concept of developing cryptids in theme with the area and there's even more potential there.

The whole Nuclear Winter scenario is moot with caves, vaults, and CAMP vaults littering the map. That "unofficial" turn out fits a simulation more - as did the entire Nuclear Winter game mode.

Originally posted by The Bayroog:

Do you think West Virginia even exists by Fallout 3?

In a very changed state with the most radically evolved and advanced tech, an impossible sea of radiation and cryptids from which 76ers battled the first Super Mutant threats, halted the alien invasion, and ended or came to control the Scorched plague.

[The Bayroog]

Well, time for me to dust some cheetos off my chest.

I don't think West Virginia has ever been directly referenced in a previous Fallout game. Maybe some vault numbers, but I can pretty much promise you that the Responders, Firebreathers, Foundation* or Crater never gets mentioned again - neither does the Scorched plague.

Now, Fallout 3 DID imply that the BoS had sent an expeditionary force from California to the East Coast to find some long, lost BoS group. I always assumed this was a headnod to Fallout Tactics, but West Virginia could fit the bill if you consider it like a Roanoke type "lost colony" from 200 years ago... that nobody ever gets letters from.

Outside of the forest region, the Cranberry bog is the most fertile and well-defended point on the map. Watoga literally holds its own against Scorched beasts and it's hilarious to watch. BUT, you nuked the Cranberry bog. Whoops!

Atlas is a weather station that the BoS showed back up to run. But you nuked the mine around the corner to kill some stupid mutant. Whoops!

Now there's a new region to explore, but it frankly looks like hell-on-earth and you (spoiler) nuked the region again at the end.

As far as Nuclear winter, I cant comment - It was so unpopular that they removed it and salted the earth so it could never grow again. Is it lore?

Fallout 4 tries to trick the player into thinking they are a synth or in a simulation a few times, but it's a hard pill to swallow.

[Phlanka]

Fallout 76 should take place after Fallout 4, given the amount of different and unique power armor pieces that you dont see in any other fallout titles. Where was the union power armor when Ashur took over the Pitt in FO3? and what happened to the Fanatics and Union factions by the time Vault 101 Wanderer reaches the pitt? Shouldn't there be secret service armored troops including T65 troopers guarding President ♥♥♥♥ Richardson in Fallout 2? Doesnt make sense at all.

[Wack-A-Mole MLRS]

Originally posted by Mooman:

The unofficial or maybe just delayed lore to the end of Appalachia was it was destroyed by a fire storm. Only 1 person survived in the Prototype Hellfire armour.

This was part of the Nuclear Winter battle royale. There is also another possibility.

The Emissary you can find randomly during the Alien Invasion event hints that due to all the nukes, the background radiation is now high enough to 'see' things.

Vault 76 dwellers have attracted the attention of things they shouldn't have...

Your right on the first one. Just my little Mole in My Hellfire Suit. Really I stole it from MODUS but sense He burned up it is OK.

[Phlanka]

Originally posted by Phlanka:

Fallout 76 should take place after Fallout 4, given the amount of different and unique power armor pieces that you dont see in any other fallout titles. Where was the union power armor when Ashur took over the Pitt in FO3? and what happened to the Fanatics and Union factions by the time Vault 101 Wanderer reaches the pitt? Shouldn't there be secret service armored troops including T65 troopers guarding President ♥♥♥♥ Richardson in Fallout 2? Doesnt make sense at all.

LOL auto-censorship apparently D i C K is no longer a name

[The Bayroog]

Well I basically live in the Pitt in Fallout and my understanding was the the F03 BoS detachment came up on The Pitt and were so horrified and disgusted by what they saw that they gunned down anything and everybody that they didn't like. Despite being from Paradise Falls, the slaves in FO3 Pitt share a lot of similarities with the Union twits in FO76, but more than likely both the fanatics and unioners who stay behind just devolved into generic raiders -- If you think the Union dorks are the good guys, just remember they keep "spies" in the Fanatics, have operatives that used to be in the Fanatics, and are worried about spies FROM the Fanatics infiltrating their clubhouse - so they might as well be two sides of the same messed up coin.

President Giant Boner is the PC name for Richard on steam

[The Bayroog]

As a sidenote, if you've ever lived in Pennsylvania, Fallout's depiction of Pittsburgh will always feel just a little "too accurate" <_<

I'd like to believe that Harrisburg looks exactly the same as it did before the war and people just assumed a nuke hit it.