Events and High level players = boring gameplay

[GarethJason]

I am only level 35 and I go to events sometimes only to just not get any kills or contribute in any way, while the level 300+ just sits on top of a building and one shots everything. It's severely annoying to me cause I am here to *play the game* but I can't cause of the no lifers on this game. Can we have it so if you are a low level you only queue with people close to your level?

Also before you say "Just shoot them once." I can't they are already dead.
Or, "Be in a team." They are all full.

Its boring gameplay and I just want to get the goodies from the monsters on top of the event loot, and actually enjoy the game for what it is. If that's wrong of me to think that way then so be it.

[Dakone]

if starting out best weapons to use would be Aoe weapons such as the tesla rifle which if you put some effort into it can find all the parts easily.

[SerialGamer]

Originally posted by GarethJason:

Originally posted by SerialGamer:

You need to understand that when hordes of enemies attack, time is of the essence. Don't blame other players for killing fast, because that is the goal of most events. If it's not done in time, the event fails, everybody loses and doesn't get loot. Is that what you prefer? If you are too slow to do the kills, other players will do them for you, that's just a fact. Don't think of them as stealing your kills, but helping you finish the event, because that is the ultimate goal. Team work!

A player cannot look and fire at 360 degrees simultaneously, so there are always enemies open for you to shoot. If you don't shoot, other players will surely shoot them for you. BRING A FAST GUN to these events, or the enemies will either get shot by other players or die of old age.

GRAPES ARE SOUR if you can't get them, so don't fall into that trap of a thinking.

I understand that but some players literally are just on top of a tower and just spamming the area. Like I get it, get it done fast, but like I dont want to be a freeloader and get free stuff all the time. Thats just me though, I know the sentiment most people have is "Yes i want free stuff."

You need to strengthen your build first before worrying about others stealing your kills, otherwise they will steal your kills even when they are on the ground standing right next to you.

Here is my gameplay video of Eviction Notice and Moonshine Jamboree. I'm on the ground the whole time and I get tons of kills. As others have said, you only need to deal partial damage to get a kill. Against legendary enemies, you get their loot even if you never fire at them:

https://youtu.be/FoQllTb-ZLE?si=DEY66c6mL-Odt0oD

Note my low health amidst all that gunfire, and I'm never in danger. Many players perch on top of buildings because they aren't tanky enough to withstand close attacks.

And as I have said, players can't fire at all enemies at the same time. Even if they use AOE weapons, they can't fire at 360 degrees. So there are always enemies open.

Players are not always the best coordinated as a group. Sometimes multiple players attack a single enemy and leave others open.

I use VATS to help me find open enemies (as shown in my video above). If the enemy hordes are big enough, there are ALWAYS enemies open.

[Alt0153]

i like getting carried by high levels, i normally just tag eachy mob and let them finish them off so i get max exp and loot

[Nikol]

Everyone gets the reward. And don't worry, you'll get bigger someday.

[Wade]

If you watch Boring Turtle he one-shots that poor Behemoth near Twin Lake all the time with various weapons, but if he gets bit by a molerat he dies instantly. Everything wrong with this game.

[AbsynthMinded]

Originally posted by hawkeye:

Originally posted by steventirey:

I know it may come as a surprise, but some people play to a game to actually play the game. Not to sit back and watch people with hundreds or thousands of levels one shot groups of enemies.

Exactly. Griefing is wrecking someone else's fun. This behavior is no different. And you have the little kiddies who race in and grab the loot from your kills. And the excuses they come up with. The only difference between feral ghouls and many players is their skin. Underneath they are both the same.

A vested self interest to be Optimally Effective is not akin to Griefing Behavior. No one in 76 can 'Steal Your Loot'. At best if you die they can grab collected junk off the body. High level players simply have perfected their build to no longer be reliant on anyone for anything. 2-3 players with experience, proper kit and focus can destroy almost every Event and Encounter. This is not to Grief anyone, but to make sure goals can be accomplished despite anyone else's lack of effort or foolishness.

For every complaint we hear about High Level behavior, the high level players sit on a pile of their complaints about newbs causing all manner of chaos.

[Wade]

Originally posted by steventirey:

I know it may come as a surprise, but some people play to a game to actually play the game. Not to sit back and watch people with hundreds or thousands of levels one shot groups of enemies.

I agree, but nothing you can do about it. And I even don't blame those low IQ players. It's all Bethesda's fault. It's their job to properly balance game mechanics and they do that job very, very poorly, to say at least.

[Mari]

Dear 35 lv person, you wouldn't be able to complete any event without the help of a high level players

[Mad Magician]

idk about this post, you'd usually want high leveled people at online game public events. There's the event reward anyway, I don't need 15 combat shotguns for more iron/steel scrap... Where were these high leveled people when a bunch of lowbies and I, ran out of ammo against earle?

[Dracul]

Once you unlock it via the scoreboard you can craft the Cremator at lvl31, that with explosion radius and you can tag mobs way easier in most events, especially effective in Radiation Rumble due to the tight confines and makes short work of Overgrown in any expeditions they are in (well anything that sets them on fire works, one of my chars has a shikebab for them and zero melee perks).

[AlexSledge]

If you're only level 35 and not having fun at events, don't do them. You have single player story-line quests that will take you one third of the way (around level 100) to end game - until then you're annoying ants in the way of people who know what they're doing trying to get events done.

[Simple]

Don't worry about me, I don't do events anymore these days and if I do I stay AFK because I don't have the will for it anymore. Now about the post's complaint, when I started playing it was like that too, but when you progress in the game you'll be able to catch up the other players. Selfishness is you bothering other people from just playing the game just because you are weaker than others because you are new.

[Niko Insane]

Originally posted by Amarica:

Dear 35 lv person, you wouldn't be able to complete any event without the help of a high level players

And they will do the same at high level they just dont understand now

[Mooman]

Why are most of the new players in such a hurry? This game is a marathon, not a sprint...

Take your time to explore and learn. A player that takes it slow, scraps all found gear for mod plans, loots aid and ammo will have a far better 'endgame'.

New players should stop asking for handouts and instead hand ups. And veterans... stop filling those outstretched hands, you help no one... Whatever happened to earning your keep?

I often wonder why people even play games like this but ignore what it really is about... That TV show hype... Was it worth it?

[Jeff Kaos]

Why are you doing events at level 35? I didn't start doing them until I was level 50 or 60. And here's a pro-tip from a guy who has a full time job and went from level 1 to level 140 in less than three weeks: Do Moonshine Jamboree. Do it a few times. I swear I level up at least three times each time I do that Event. Oh, and you're not getting kills? Just chuck grenades everywhere. I have over 100 Pulse Grenades in my stash and before that I was getting Fragmentation Grenade drops just as frequently. You just need to damage an enemy to get credit for the kill. And even at level 35 there's at least a half-dozen ways to get some high output AOE damage. 2-tGrenadier perk plus molotovs should let you do damage to half the area you're in.

This is a game for everyone. Even the whiners.