Events and High level players = boring gameplay

[GarethJason]

I am only level 35 and I go to events sometimes only to just not get any kills or contribute in any way, while the level 300+ just sits on top of a building and one shots everything. It's severely annoying to me cause I am here to *play the game* but I can't cause of the no lifers on this game. Can we have it so if you are a low level you only queue with people close to your level?

Also before you say "Just shoot them once." I can't they are already dead.
Or, "Be in a team." They are all full.

Its boring gameplay and I just want to get the goodies from the monsters on top of the event loot, and actually enjoy the game for what it is. If that's wrong of me to think that way then so be it.

[Halcyform]

It's been like this since launch. Nothing new. If anything, it's gotten worse.

You've always had powerful legendary weapons that take things over the top. Around 1 year or so in, people started adding hacked weapon mods into the mix and then regular legendary weapons got blamed for their effects. The more notorious legendaries were nerfed/removed and then devs added even more ridiculous event legendaries.

You'll find that PvP works the same way.

You have two options to pick: By design or incompetence. The actual answer is that it's both but much more of the latter.

Edit: the above doesn't include the constant menagerie of glitches that you run into.

[AbsynthMinded]

35 you are not even close to filling out a build. At best you need to get an explosive AoE effect attack option and just tag everything to gain more XP. That's what low level players ought to do at Events until they fill out their build.

Build>Weapon/Armor>Apparel>Accessories(Food/Drink/Chems/etc)

[Halcyform]

As far as general leveling goes, stick to super mutants. They give good experience, drop an assortment of weapons to scrap (for mods), ammo, caps and other miscellany of items.

Don't completely avoid workshops. If it isn't claimed, go claim it. Hide in the area until it's claim and then leave - don't defend it. Once you claim it, you get a pretty decent chunk of experience and an assortment of resources and plans. You can easily repeat this process by hopping to a new servers and keep your exposure to PvP to a minimum while reaping the rewards.

Once you get some levels and gear sorted out, do Atlantic City expos solo or create your own expedition group for one. People who haven't done any yet will quickly join the group.

In no time flat, you'll be joining the other players who are peppering the event area with fatman launchers, two shot grenade launchers, orbital strike grenades or power armor turret using flame based weapons blanketing the area in waves of fire.

[Plake]

"They are already dead" so you're late to the party and then complain there's no cake left?!?

[Chronocide]

Originally posted by GarethJason:

I am only level 35

Level 1-50 is basically tutorial mode. At level 50, you stop getting special stats and weapons no longer level up, which means you can finally just collect at your leisure.

Just race 15 more levels, and you'll realize that there isn't much difference between level 50 and level 500+.

[steventirey]

Originally posted by Plake:

"They are already dead" so you're late to the party and then complain there's no cake left?!?

No, the groups of enemies that spawn are instantly one or two shot by high level players with area weapons (explosive weapons, tesla rifles, flamers, or whatever). On the off chance that doesn't happen, it can still be hard to get a hit in because of all the explosions and blinding area effects make aiming a pain.

[insert food here]

If you are close to legendary enemies when they die you get the loot regardless of killing it or not. If you are on a team and nearby team mates at an event you get partial XP and also loot of anything they killed. You do not need to hit or kill anything to get this. Enemies you tag and they die is a bonus.

Have a weapon with the explosive effect and just try to tag as many enemies as you can for the XP. It will get better as you level some more.

I used to go do SBQ event at level 3 after walking all the way to Watoga from the vault so i know what feeling useless at events is like lol

[Lord Rambo]

I've been a gamer for a long time, and i've never seen a community whine quite so much about a free carry.
Just do daily ops, bro.

[Rogue]

You do know that 50 is max for all weapons and armor.
The rest is just time spent in game.

[AbsynthMinded]

Originally posted by Lord Rambo:

I've been a gamer for a long time, and i've never seen a community whine quite so much about a free carry.
Just do daily ops, bro.

Whats a free carry?

This is the Steam Forums, the standard is to complain or meme or troll..

[steventirey]

I know it may come as a surprise, but some people play to a game to actually play the game. Not to sit back and watch people with hundreds or thousands of levels one shot groups of enemies.

[GarethJason]

I'm glad that mostly the sentiment is the same relatively, given a few folks who don't agree.

I just want to play the game without being carried by a max level that's all.

Originally posted by Plake:

"They are already dead" so you're late to the party and then complain there's no cake left?!?

I was there since the start.

Originally posted by Lord Rambo:

I've been a gamer for a long time, and i've never seen a community whine quite so much about a free carry.
Just do daily ops, bro.

How about I enjoy the game without others ruining it for me? I want to actually play the game instead of being carried the whole time.

[SerialGamer]

Originally posted by GarethJason:

I'm glad that mostly the sentiment is the same relatively, given a few folks who don't agree.

I just want to play the game without being carried by a max level that's all.

Originally posted by Plake:

"They are already dead" so you're late to the party and then complain there's no cake left?!?

I was there since the start.

Originally posted by Lord Rambo:

I've been a gamer for a long time, and i've never seen a community whine quite so much about a free carry.
Just do daily ops, bro.

How about I enjoy the game without others ruining it for me? I want to actually play the game instead of being carried the whole time.

You need to understand that when hordes of enemies attack, time is of the essence. Don't blame other players for killing fast, because that is the goal of most events. If it's not done in time, the event fails, everybody loses and doesn't get loot. Is that what you prefer? If you are too slow to do the kills, other players will do them for you, that's just a fact. Don't think of them as stealing your kills, but helping you finish the event, because that is the ultimate goal. Team work!

A player cannot look and fire at 360 degrees simultaneously, so there are always enemies open for you to shoot. If you don't shoot, other players will surely shoot them for you. BRING A FAST GUN to these events, or the enemies will either get shot by other players or die of old age.

Grapes are always sour if you can't get them, so don't fall into that trap of a thinking.

[kitekrazy]

I always lo looked at them as learning opportunities. It also an easy to get XP so you can eventually grind with them, this game is really hard when you have low XP. Very hard. Constant failure is boring.

[insert food here]

The alternative is the Alien event where low levels feel like they are tickling the aliens since they are harder to kill compared to regular enemies at other events.

So the giga chads feel like the event is slightly harder but the lower levels or those without bloodied or OP builds doing tons more damage feel like they cannot kill anything.

The balance with so many things in this game is so poor it is tragic.