cold shoulder or...

[spearhawk]

So I am going with a shotgun build...
I have level 25 cold shoulder, and I am looking to plan ahead for
future. what is good shotguns and where do I get them?

[AlexSledge]

Just roll yourself the highest level Cold Shoulder you can and go with that. I've hung on to a few of the other unique shotguns, but a tactical cold shoulder is my go to, when I go to shotguns.

[PotatoBasket]

Shotguns;
The Dragon. A blackpowder, slowest fire rate and reload of shotguns. Also the most powerful. Impractical as all hell but if you learn to use it well you aren't likely to go back. Check out the Harpoon Gun with flechette mod for a similar effect but totally different feel.

Double Barrel. A quad explosive works fine as well as the Cold-Shoulder for tier-2 god roll and pseudo gr. Otherwise they are not something to rely on.

Pump action and combat shotgun. Very solid tier-3 weapons that get you through the beginning of the game. Definitely a favorite for first-person shooters, these two are a big example of the power-placement differentiation from other games. They lack the punch you expect after you've passed the power curve.

Plasma splitter barrel. A mod for the plasma gun. I haven't actually played with this except to do it, dislike it, and undo it but there's a video somewhere on forum by a user showcasing it that's pretty explanatory.

*Peppershaker. How could I forget. You're better off with Gauss, Cold shoulder, or another weapon-theme entirely.

Gauss. Over-hyped if not modded up correctly with the appropriate build. With the correct legendary prefixes it's the only tier-1 shotgun. If you actually wanna go shot gunner solo at events/ops this is the weapon for you; cold shoulder functions great for, or medic-prefix variations of the other shotguns function well for support.

[Firaveus-]

Don't forget that Cold shoulder will 1 shot 90% of the player base. Vats crit shot to the face they die...

[spearhawk]

One VERY negative about shotguns is the automatic, or lack of it, and shooting several times in a row in hecticx situation, shoots in ceiling....happend many times

[spearhawk]

shot gun perks...?
I got shotgunner and expert shotgunner (assume the other is 45+)
scattershot
conc fire (2star)
action girl...

what am I missing? (level 35 going on 40)

[Eriskumma]

Originally posted by spearhawk:

what am I missing? (level 35 going on 40)

Enforcer, it's in Agility. Also I recommend getting Better Criticals and Four Leaf Clover, those are in Luck.
EDIT. Oh, sorry, you can't get Better Criticals yet.

[Eriskumma]

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

Shotguns;
The Dragon.

The Dragon is a rifle but it counts as shotgun in spirit. :D

[Salem Graves]

Cold Shoulder is best shoulder.

[die-wc-ente]

Originally posted by Unremarkable Rat:

Cold Shoulder is best shoulder.

head and shoulders are the best - probably the residents of Andale (Fallout 3) see it this way

[AlexSledge]

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

Shotguns;
The Dragon. A blackpowder, slowest fire rate and reload of shotguns. Also the most powerful. Impractical as all hell but if you learn to use it well you aren't likely to go back.

Technically not a shotgun, and shotgun perks don't apply - it's a weird quad barrel blackpowder rifle. It one shots anything non-end-game-boss just fine (if you're tuned for rifles), but saying it's slow is a massive under-exaggeration. SO many other options for one shotting non-bosses - complete your challenges with it, and retire it.

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

Plasma splitter barrel. A mod for the plasma gun. I haven't actually played with this except to do it, dislike it, and undo it but there's a video somewhere on forum by a user showcasing it that's pretty explanatory.

Hopefully the showcase was for un-modding it, because that's the most useful thing to know about the beam splitter.

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

Gauss. Over-hyped if not modded up correctly with the appropriate build. With the correct legendary prefixes it's the only tier-1 shotgun. If you actually wanna go shot gunner solo at events/ops this is the weapon for you; cold shoulder functions great for, or medic-prefix variations of the other shotguns function well for support.

Dialed in, lots of fun. Ran one for a while, certainly more than capable.

Cold Shoulder benefit is you can plink bosses or whatever until they take the cryo-hit, then switch to your "real" weapon.

[Voden]

I got the Cold Shoulder before I tried some other weapons and man, it ruined me for other guns, lol. So far the only other thing I've found that can keep up is a flamer modded Slug Buster (which I had to buy off someone cause I fudged up said something snarky to that Ra-Ra chick, so she wouldn't unlock the room for me on that quest).

My main problem with other guns is that I just can't keep ammo stocked for them. The flamer-modded Slug Buster isn't as bad, and during events I can usually come out with a surplus, but anything else that's automatic just chews through all my ammo. Meanwhile I have over 25,000 shells in my ammo crate, lol.

I'm still grinding Settler rep, so I haven't been able to try the Gauss shotty yet.

[Eriskumma]

Originally posted by Voden:

Meanwhile I have over 25,000 shells in my ammo crate, lol.

This is one of the benefits of running a shotgunner with Cold Shoulder or combat shotgun, you get ridiculous amounts of ammo compared to what you use and it's pretty much impossible to run out. Have over 20000 shells on my shotgunner all the time and occasionally spray with Pepper Shaker just to get rid of them.

[Know Won]

When you learn to Chill everything is cool.

[Mooman]

All this time and no-one has mentioned crits... The Cold Shoulder isn't as good as everyone thinks.

I know I'm in a super minority, but I HATE it when people freeze the SBQ. If you run melee and block her sweep attack you'll keep agro on yourself. Freezing/slowing her makes timing the block impossible.

A dedicated melee player is far more useful at controlling the SBQ, and importantly, keep agro if they also run Taking One for the Team.

Cold Shoulder messes all that up... but that also requires players to see the encounter as more than a 'shoot till it's dead' and more like a 'tank and spank' MMO raid.

Any shotgun played as a crit focus can do just fine. Pump actions are great if played tactically in a shoot 1 load 1 format. Four Leaf Clover makes them a 1-2 punch, jab then haymaker.

https://youtu.be/hOz3HZwSNcs?si=-FxC3y9UUJbZJmhb

[Calistrasza]

I have discovered that limiting myself to a single build for all of this time has been a severe handicap. I'm so bad at using a shotgun it's not even funny. Rifle build? I can do that in my sleep. Never take damage, melt waves of enemies without breaking a sweat. With this shotgun build, I have to actually RUN AND HIDE, so I can heal myself up.

Wow am I bad at this game. Consider eyes opened.

Any suggestions for armor while using a shotgun? I rock SS at the moment because no one ever hit me. Now that I actually get hit, I need something with a little bit more protection, I think.