why is nobody interested in joining a colossal problem event?

[M A M O P Y]

when someone starts the scorched earth event, the whole server show up in seconds. Meanwhile when someone starts a colossal problem, only 3-5 players are joining the event. i once started the event and nobody was joining. why?

Edit: lmao, thanks to this post and from you guys i just found out about 'Encryptid' Event. i thought there were only 2 raid bosses in this game (Earle & SBQ). I'm lvl 160 and didnt know about the Encryptid event till now. i Just did my first Encryptid event last night lmao.

[Halcyform]

The event is a resource sink and offers next to nothing in return. Compared to SBQ and encryptid, it's garbage.

[No mic]

Boss is unnecessary bullet sponge. Durability waste. Rewards sucks. And also, you don't get improved repair kit as a reward.

[Confector426]

Originally posted by Halcyform:

The event is a resource sink and offers next to nothing in return. Compared to SBQ and encryptid, it's garbage.

Not being cheeky, literally just hit 30 today so i'm just ignorant.

Could you elaborate just briefly on what you mean by resource sink vs no reward? (i get the principle, just not the practical application in this instance as to what the variables actually are other than time/effort expended)

thank you very much for your patience!

[M A M O P Y]

Originally posted by Halcyform:

The event is a resource sink and offers next to nothing in return. Compared to SBQ and encryptid, it's garbage.

wait, there is an event called "Encrypted"? wtf i didnt know that.

[Forsaken Wolf]

Originally posted by M A M O:

Originally posted by Halcyform:

The event is a resource sink and offers next to nothing in return. Compared to SBQ and encryptid, it's garbage.

wait, there is an event called "Encrypted"? wtf i didnt know that.

It's an event you can iniatie after you complete the "Lying Lowe" questline.

Originally posted by Confector426:

Originally posted by Halcyform:

The event is a resource sink and offers next to nothing in return. Compared to SBQ and encryptid, it's garbage.

Not being cheeky, literally just hit 30 today so i'm just ignorant.

Could you elaborate just briefly on what you mean by resource sink vs no reward? (i get the principle, just not the practical application in this instance as to what the variables actually are other than time/effort expended)

thank you very much for your patience!

You spend a lot of ammo and weapon/armor durability and get not much in return.

[M A M O P Y]

Originally posted by No mic:

Boss is unnecessary bullet sponge. Durability waste. Rewards sucks. And also, you don't get improved repair kit as a reward.

ah i see. never realized about the reward thing.

[Halcyform]

Originally posted by Confector426:

Originally posted by Halcyform:

The event is a resource sink and offers next to nothing in return. Compared to SBQ and encryptid, it's garbage.

Not being cheeky, literally just hit 30 today so i'm just ignorant.

Could you elaborate just briefly on what you mean by resource sink vs no reward? (i get the principle, just not the practical application in this instance as to what the variables actually are other than time/effort expended)

thank you very much for your patience!

The boss itself is a bullet sponge. You aren't going to melee it to death. It frequently emits an aoe fear that causes everyone to run away from it, meaning you have to kill it with ranged weapons. You are going to burn through a bunch of ammo for little to no rewards.

The rewards are garbage. You'll get stimpaks, a few treasury notes, a 1-3 star legendary and maybe a wendigo or colossus plushie. That's it.

The only reason to do the event is for the initial quest that has you nuke the location and to farm the wendigos that spawn along with boss. You can let others occupy the boss's attention and just kill the wendigo spawns. You can loot tons of acid and screws from the wendigos.

Unless you need to do the quest or need acid and screws (which you can get elsewhere), it's a waste of time and resources.

[Stardustfire]

if you are in need of treasure notes, earl is best (8) . but most ppl are more in need of stable flux, and in that area SBQ beat earl, but have in return only 4 TN. Encryptid is very "special" in its rewards, chance on a white fedora and rarly on the build plan for the fixer, and the later is irrelevant for everyone not using a stealth rifle build.

[Confector426]

Thank you everyone for elaborating, I think I get it now lol

@Halcyform that.... that sounds like a truly pathetic reward for such a high tier enemy but the info you gave really makes one get it lol damn.... that just... .sucks

[BizarreMan]

1) You are limited to 8 people in the instance, and once it kicks off, nobody else can join. (Unless they are able to join a team that has a member in the event already and FT to that teammate).
2) You are going to run through a ton of ammo and stimpaks.
3) Your weapons will break. I can run back to back queen fights with no problem, but have to repair my weapon at least once during ACP.
4) The first few times in, it's a great novelty, but novelty doesn't pay the ammo dealer. It's really quite boring. You're fighting Earle, or Wendigo Spawn. That's it. It's a one note fight. With SBQ, you will have her, but there are no guarantees on what adds will pop up.
5) The rewards really aren't worth it IMHO.

[Halcyform]

Originally posted by Confector426:

Thank you everyone for elaborating, I think I get it now lol

@Halcyform that.... that sounds like a truly pathetic reward for such a high tier enemy but the info you gave really makes one get it lol damn.... that just... .sucks

Yep. And none of the wendigo spawns are legendary. The loot on SBQ can be pretty lackluster most of the time, but you still get 1 to 2 legendaries, food craft items, treasury notes and a fair amount of flux. You get a fair amount of adds during SBQ and you have a chance at a fair number of them being legendary.

There are an additional 2 to 3 other Scorch Beasts in the area that can also be legendary. Nuking the area where the SBQ is also yields a lot of nuked flora that you can turn into flux as long as you have masses and high radiation fluids. All around a much better event than Colossal Problem.

[Arcanix]

Im a peaceful type.

[Phantom]

So

the three "super bosses"

Scorched Beast Queen - Drops some moderate plans (her good ones are bugged and don't drop atm), drops a legendary 3*, and a chance for another on her body. Also gives 4 flux (1200 - 2000 caps easy), and 2 improved repair kits (instant item repair things... very useful I have hundreds :P) and IIRC 4 treasury notes

Pros - She dies quickly, rewards are good
Cons - If people who don't know how to nuke her do it then the fight can be inside a nuke zone

Requires a nuke dropped in the south east


Earle - Drops a legendary 3*, and a chance for another on his body. Gives 2 flux, doesn't have any good plans, and his best other drop is probably the cosmetic miner helm. Gives 8 treasury notes

Pros - His adds are numerous and 50% of the time they drop a good wack of ammo (I get 40-50 ultracite .45 when they drop it), they also provide acid and screws in abundance should you want those.

Cons - Earle himself takes a ton of bullets to kill compared to the others (90% base damage reduction IIRC with a large health pool) so he takes a few minutes to kill

Requires a nuke dropped on the northern mine by the palace


Encryptid - Drops a random * item, and a chance for another random * on his corpse. Chance of the fixer plan (6-9k). Typically has another half dozen 3* robots swarm in during his fight.

Pros - Fixer plan, and goes down like a fighter with a glass jaw

Cons - Takes multiple people to deactivate his 100% damage reduction shield and invisibility

Requires a recall card be used at the pylons in the south west


Most abusively good groups (or people using cheated weapons) will do

Queen nuke - Kill queen, Earle nuke - Kill queen in under 5 mins, kill earle - Earle nuke - Kill queen in under 5 mins, kill earle - encryptd - hop servers repeat

[Jman]

The other problem with Earle Williams is players can't reap the rewards at the end of the battle since the mine gets closed down in about 1 and a half minutes. So unless you are focusing on looting every wendego spawn, which if you are you're not contributing to the fight which takes a lot of ammo (I've eaten a good 5k rounds of ammo taking that boss down in a group) all those spawn kills essentially get wasted.

Edit: I'd say another Con to Earle Williams is the infuriating RNG of your character running into instant death areas when your character runs in fear. That and the fight can get really overwhelming with all the spawns which in the Queen fight, can be mitigated by fighting her in the right spot.

Also Williams fight has no chance of spawning extra Legendary mobs unlike both Queen and Encrypted where you can get the random legendary mob to fight for extra good loot.

[Grubbs008]

Originally posted by M A M O:

Originally posted by Halcyform:

The event is a resource sink and offers next to nothing in return. Compared to SBQ and encryptid, it's garbage.

wait, there is an event called "Encrypted"? wtf i didnt know that.

Honestly the imposter sheepsqatch you fight in that event is harder than any enemy in the game. It's just not a bullet sponge but it killed me with it's head beam at 550 energy rating, while under a super stim, 45% more perk and field surgeon while using a vampire gatling plasma.