Player camps disabling pacifist mode?

[SomethingClever]

Is this for real? I walked into a player camp to look at their shop and while I was in the shop menu I think they attacked me, cuz I died after closing the shop. They took my stuff before I finished respawning and then proceeded to attack me from the roof of a train station, as their camp was right next to one. How for does a player camp's area extend? And shouldn't there be a notification that you're entering a PVP area? What the player did was basically a trap for other players and, while I'm definitely salty about having my stuff taken, I'm more bothered by not knowing that Pacifist mode was disabled at a camp. Anyway, if that's the case, keep an eye out for narrow hallways and suspiciously well stocked player shops. The wasteland is a dangerous place.

[steventirey]

Player camps are not PVP areas. Just entering one will not enable PVP. The workshops you can find around the map and can claim can do that, but not player camps.

[Kakashpyon]

That sounds like the telltale signs of a trap camp, they probably got you with a punji pile, which is one of the laziest styles of trap, because they can just place it on you and kill you basically instantly.

If you suspect a trap camp in future, don't engage with it, or put on light-footed and head in at your own peril.

EDIT: To explain, light-footed will basically neutralise any form of trap that isn't manually activated.

[SomethingClever]

Originally posted by steventirey:

Player camps are not PVP areas. Just entering one will not enable PVP. The workshops you can find around the map and can claim can do that, but not player camps.

That's what I thought. The thing that threw me off and made me ask about this was the fact that, when I respawned and started heading back, the player started shooting me from the roof of the neighboring train station and was actually doing damage. I didn't have a bounty on me, so if it's not camp related, maybe it was a bug?

[SomethingClever]

Originally posted by Kakashpyon:

That sounds like the telltale signs of a trap camp, they probably got you with a punji pile, which is one of the laziest styles of trap, because they can just place it on you and kill you basically instantly.

If you suspect a trap camp in future, don't engage with it, or put on light-footed and head in at your own peril.

EDIT: To explain, light-footed will basically neutralise any form of trap that isn't manually activated.

Well that's lame. It's a good thing I neurotically stash my stuff like the trash goblin I am. I die on my own easily enough, I don't need bored lvl 1000's help lol

[Cpt. Lukyyy (CZ)]

Originally posted by SomethingClever:

Originally posted by steventirey:

Player camps are not PVP areas. Just entering one will not enable PVP. The workshops you can find around the map and can claim can do that, but not player camps.

That's what I thought. The thing that threw me off and made me ask about this was the fact that, when I respawned and started heading back, the player started shooting me from the roof of the neighboring train station and was actually doing damage. I didn't have a bounty on me, so if it's not camp related, maybe it was a bug?

Well, there was a pvp turned on between you two because of that trap base. The best thing to do is block that player and report him for exploits. Most trap bases are built with the help of exploits or cheats and bethesda is really effective in banning those. There are still few sad individuals around fallout, who use these traps in a co-op game to annoy people lol.

[Kakashpyon]

Originally posted by SomethingClever:

Well that's lame. It's a good thing I neurotically stash my stuff like the trash goblin I am. I die on my own easily enough, I don't need bored lvl 1000's help lol

That's a good policy to have.

Personally, I'm not against trap camps as a concept, I've seen some funny takes, some annoying. Getting cooked by flamethrower traps in a small room is a classic, but encumbrance hostage traps are just annoying and easily worked around with a server hop. Most creative one I've dealt with was a long gauntlet of avoiding obvious traps, only for a pitfall just before the vendor, I survived because it's basically impossible for me to die of fall damage, just a shame the vendor prices were trash, lol.

I am against punji piles though, because Bethesda has tried to patch those out already, stacked punjis are not intended behaviour.

[lordoftheapes79]

Always dump your junk before visiting camps. Trap CAMPs are rare, but the people that build them are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and use every exploit available to screw with you.

Also, keep a rocket launcher in your back pocket. If they activate pvp, you can destroy it.