Company Tea a bit "to" good tbh

[W.A. the Anum]

I mean sure, it sounds off if you complain about something which you can get for free but overall, it feels..."to" good.
For people which do not have the company tea machine from the latest season scoreboard yet, SPOLIERS:

So the tea gives you opon drinking:
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- 41% thirst
- 1 hour buff of +10% AP regen
- 1 hour buff of -20% disease chance (aka resistance 20%)

This...is a bit to strong if you ask me. 41% thirst (so NEARLY HALF FULL) is nearly the strongest thirst sorce, if im right, in the WHOLE game. I think the ONLY stronger one would be nuka colas with the skill "nuka nut" full-skilled but those NEED 2 skill points with a thirst giving of 45% so only 4% more for 2 used skill points.
Knowing that makes cola nut even less useful if you can just drink said tea.

It also makes lemonade basically nearly useless since they share similar buffs - and said buffs from the tea are also 1 hour long...

Overall, i think the tea is waaaaayy to "good". Useful for sure but it "feels" nearly like youre somewhat cheating. the bufftime should srsly be lowerd to like 20-30 mins maybe and the thrist to around 10-20% which is more than enough for such good water-item. It makes normal water sorces like puf. water next to useless which is already "Basically" free as well...

[Sirius]

None of the values are in any way game breaking "good".

There is no problem here at all IMO.

Disease is a non-issue anyway.
Thirst is a non issue anyway.
10% AP regen for an hour? That's not even all that useful.

[Phantom]

Yes

Herbivore in a team gets 25 ap / second BASE regen (which is further affected by your % buffs)

This is the same as all 5 pieces of armour having powered

Live and love 3 makes this 37.5 ap / second BASE regen... I recover 500 ap the literal second the cooldown is complete (its like 2 seconds) after using ap

I always crafting this PIA drink

Honeycomb - real PIA to obtain, I horded hundreds during meat week
Whiskey - Vendors sell it fairly often, I used to just buy it everytime I saw it
Cream - Ditto above
Nuka Cola - Ditto above
Having to find the plants and craft the lab tea first
Then having to find different plants to craft the final product

was really the hardest of all of the crafting food things, and by a literal country mile... but also demonstrably the best

the reason for the long duration was because of how incredibly time consuming obtaining the materials to make it was

[W.A. the Anum]

Originally posted by |x|SiriuS|x|:

None of the values are in any way game breaking "good".

There is no problem here at all IMO.

i never said its gamebreaking but literally counted up stuff which makes this tea basically redundent to exist now.

[Mooman]

Yep, Bethesda took reward for effort and gave it to everyone (who get it this season, or until a recolour in the shop...).

I never crafted them because of the difficulty, but this reward really, really pisses me off. It shows a total lack of BGS understanding their own game...

They don't understand the AP consumption of weapons, they don't understand the effort vs. reward ratio, they don't understand balance...

Every update a little more life is sucked out of the game...

[Grendel_Khan]

You can buy the plans for the machine with Gold Bullion at Foundation.

I used to craft these all the time and found the honeycomb the most annoying to find as not all honeybeasts dropped any. Starlight berries could be found in The Deep, about 15 plants. Cream and whiskey could be bought and the other flower was in abundance at the golf course in Whitesprings.

For the time it took to craft this tea I find the buffs it provides fairly appropriate.

[Wurm65]

Typical Live Service Player:

Gets something nice for free in game, that actually benefits them and everyone else and make life a bit easier for everyone.

Immediately complains about it and "suggests" it get nerfed.

And @ Mooman: Effort vs. Reward? In Fallout 76? Seriously? lol

[Kakashpyon]

It's helpful, but I wouldn't call it 'too' good. I get far more use out of canned coffee, which is basically Skyrim's vegetable soup but less absurd(it does sustain my jetpack usage while in effect though). Don't get me wrong, the AP regen is great, but it doesn't help me pump out DPS quite like coffee(or if I'm feeling particularly spendthrift, quantum).

TL;DR I think it's fine, it doesn't need a nerf

[Smurff-a-thon2k]

Originally posted by Kakashpyon:

It's helpful, but I wouldn't call it 'too' good. I get far more use out of canned coffee, which is basically Skyrim's vegetable soup but less absurd(it does sustain my jetpack usage while in effect though). Don't get me wrong, the AP regen is great, but it doesn't help me pump out DPS quite like coffee(or if I'm feeling particularly spendthrift, quantum).

TL;DR I think it's fine, it doesn't need a nerf

This... I was expecting canned coffee that lasts for an hour, but nope.... I can't sprint continually with just company tea, coffee let me sprint continually for its 30 seconds.

I guess its nice to have the extra regen, but I changed my weapon wheel back to coffee from company tea.

[Kakashpyon]

Originally posted by Smurff-a-thon2k:

This... I was expecting canned coffee that lasts for an hour, but nope.... I can't sprint continually with just company tea, coffee let me sprint continually for its 30 seconds.

I guess its nice to have the extra regen, but I changed my weapon wheel back to coffee from company tea.

Yeah, I was already familiar with AP regen effects, I have a soft spot for it, but AP regen is not AP restoration, you need to calm down to regen, restoration just lets you go ham.

[Hefutoxin]

Players are far too overpowered as it is. Easy company tea doesn't change anything.

[nordmeyerx]

The fact that it lasts for an HOUR is awesome.

[W.A. the Anum]

I think noone really gets it.
Its not the fact that the item is just "too good", its the fact that it makes stuff basically redundent like said cola nut skill or drinks like lemonade.

[That Radio Geek]

You control the buttons you press.

[Hefutoxin]

Originally posted by W.A. the Anum:

I think noone really gets it.
Its not the fact that the item is just "too good", its the fact that it makes stuff basically redundent like said cola nut skill or drinks like lemonade.

People aren't using Cola Nut and Hard Lemonade because they need to. Just like you had no issues prior to knowing Company Tea existed.

I'll stick with Hard Lemonade myself. I already use Party Boy. This allows me to find some amusement by switching between Hard Lemonade for combat AP and Whiskey for carry weight to Fast Travel.

[Kakashpyon]

Originally posted by W.A. the Anum:

I think noone really gets it.
Its not the fact that the item is just "too good", its the fact that it makes stuff basically redundent like said cola nut skill or drinks like lemonade.

Mate, you literally titled the thread, 'Company Tea a bit "to" good tbh'

I don't run Cola Nut for thirst either, I run it because it makes Nuka-Cola and its variants a very powerful consumable, Rank 2 makes a Nuka-Grape a rad-scrub, Cranberry's 2% XP becomes 6%, yes, it even makes Quantum's restorative effects more absurd. You can't in good faith, call this making the perk redundant.

I have also tested Lemonade with it, it stacks with Company Tea, meaning that it hasn't been rendered rendered redundant at all, I'd argue it's even better in combination.

EDIT: Minor formatting fix.
EDIT 2: I decided to test Hard Lemonade as well, as predicted, that also stacks with Company Tea.