Explosive Legendary over rated? AND MISUNDERSTOOD?

[Builder Bob]

Been testing recently with damage numbers on and noticed that the description is more accurate now when it says bullets/projectiles Explode FOR 20%/3% weapon damage. Example an 80 damage weapon hitting something with 0 resistances will in total only do 64 projectile damage and 16 explosive damage.
Opinions?

[Boboscus]

Every explosive legendary I tried let me down, they feel weak.

[Sr Humungus]

To use explosive legendary you must give perk cards to the weapon, explosive 5 stars and grenadier to more aoe, but yes, thanks to the nerfing now will do less dmg.

[insert food here]

Explosive legendary effect is good for tagging enemies at events and will do good damage against weak enemies. If you run the full demo expert perk in intelligence and the grenadier perk for double explosive radius it can be quite good.

Against stronger enemies and the bosses explosive is not so great due to them having much higher explosive resistance.

I always carry at least one explosive gun on me for easy tagging but i much prefer 25% faster fire for the second star for my main weapons as it is always 25% more DPS.

[Wack-A-Mole MLRS]

I use allot of explosive 50 cals. I point and shoot, if not working very well I rotate to the next-repeat and shoot until I find one for that enemy. If that still dose not work I use My Vamp Exp 50 . At least I won't die while will trying to figure it out. Or I just run away.

[4mysou1just1]

Sooooooo this begs the question!
If they have nerfed what we have learned to use.
What are they pushing us towards to use NOW?
Maybe kill a deathclaw with a fork?
OOH a legendary fork.
If your a carnivore, you eat them to death.
Fork cause's bleeding damage...
75% limb damage.
Up close and personal..........................................

[Wack-A-Mole MLRS]

Can only scrape forks-but a good pitch fork can be a good weapon, mostly looks cool and fun to poke things with. Deathclaws would take a lot of poking.

[Nex]

I dumped explosive long time ago. I use FFR/Vats crit dmg instead

[Phantom]

Explosive has its purpose

Tagging weapons, strangler builds (mostly pvp), stagger builds and pvp damage (since damage cap is 110 on players it lets you get more damage per shot)

but 20% damage is weaker than the 25% faster fire rate and explosive doubles weapon break

5 perk slots to do 12% more damage isn't generally good either

Edit: I should also mention some guns like the railway get an unusual and EXCEPTIONAL synergy with explosive

[Vic Evicerator]

Sometimes explosive has other benefits - for example, Vampire explosive is awesome. Quite literally a lifesaver in a lot of cases.

[Traveler]

I didn't think explosive legendary stacked with explosive perks. I hate that you read one thing one place and another in another. The in game descriptions for lots of things are just aweful.

[Jman]

Originally posted by Phantom:

Explosive has its purpose

Tagging weapons, strangler builds (mostly pvp), stagger builds and pvp damage (since damage cap is 110 on players it lets you get more damage per shot)

but 20% damage is weaker than the 25% faster fire rate and explosive doubles weapon break

5 perk slots to do 12% more damage isn't generally good either

Edit: I should also mention some guns like the railway get an unusual and EXCEPTIONAL synergy with explosive

Yeah I got a Quad, Explosive Railway Rifle and that thing shreds everything in my path.

[therussmeister]

Originally posted by Jman:

Yeah I got a Quad, Explosive Railway Rifle and that thing shreds everything in my path.

I have the same, it is a beast. Why does Explosive work so much better on the RR? Just because the base damage is so high?

[insert food here]

Originally posted by Phantom:

Explosive has its purpose

Edit: I should also mention some guns like the railway get an unusual and EXCEPTIONAL synergy with explosive

Yes forgot to mention this. Explosive on a RR is amazing. Quad explosive auto RR and Vats will solve any problems you are having.

It is a big perk investment for not a lot of return on a regular gun. I usually only run full demo export if i am using explosive launchers like nuka launcher or the overkill.

Originally posted by therussmeister:

I have the same, it is a beast. Why does Explosive work so much better on the RR? Just because the base damage is so high?

I finally got a quad explosive from an event. Tried rolling for one for ages and zero luck as usual. Also got a Quad 50%Crit that is good but the explosive is amazing.

I believe it is the % of the total damage as explosive is much higher on RR for some reason. Regular explosive bullet guns only get a very small amount of the total damage as explosive. RR gets a lot more.

[Papa Shekels]

Explosive is meant to be a secondary boost to the gun, that's why it only deals a fraction of the damage. Combined with a second set of resistances being applied, it really isn't noteworthy unless it's on a weapon with already very high damage per shot or it's bugged in some way to be better than it should be, which is the vast majority of the reason it ever saw any use. Its best uses are not about dealing damage, like doubling up on vampire's recovery or tagging large groups of enemies quickly

[Dr. Dro ඞ]

Originally posted by therussmeister:

Originally posted by Jman:

Yeah I got a Quad, Explosive Railway Rifle and that thing shreds everything in my path.

I have the same, it is a beast. Why does Explosive work so much better on the RR? Just because the base damage is so high?

I have an anti-armor explosive, it's just 2-star but it's probably about as good as a gun gets in this game