Gun Fu

[nordmeyerx]

If you're running an automatic weapon + VATS build try this perk out. It's so much fun. It will automatically (chance) change to a new target and deal additional damage. You can just let the bullets fly.....until you run out of AP.

[Mooman]

It was made even more powerful this update. Rank 3 is a huge 60% increase.

Now the downside... all this has done is push the low AP meta or consumable spam. If you don't have the AP to switch targets you're outta luck.

Railway rifles, The Fixer, Handmades, any low AP automatic just became better at clearing hordes... like they needed that anyway...

This is one of my "stuff you Bethesda" changes that proves just who they listen to or cater the game for.

[nordmeyerx]

True, but it's still a lot of fun :)

[Mooman]

Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely using it. Converted from 5 adrenaline and 1 gun Fu to 3 and 3.

It just makes it hard to enjoy other gear when there is a clear winner. For example lasers vs ballistics.

Handmade, Railways and Fixers can run around 2-3 AP per shot. A laser at best can get 10, that is 3-5 times worse.

For the same AP a ballistic can easily kill something and change target with heaps of AP to spare.

It is fun but I also wish the lasers got the same AP reductions to be able to use VATS and crits as efficiently.

[Smurff-a-thon2k]

agree 100% its one of it not my favorite card. If feels amazing to wipe an entire horde all at once like Christian Bale in Equilibrium...
(watch that movie if you havent seen it, top tier)

[therussmeister]

Originally posted by Mooman:

It was made even more powerful this update. Rank 3 is a huge 60% increase.

Now the downside... all this has done is push the low AP meta or consumable spam. If you don't have the AP to switch targets you're outta luck.

Railway rifles, The Fixer, Handmades, any low AP automatic just became better at clearing hordes... like they needed that anyway...

This is one of my "stuff you Bethesda" changes that proves just who they listen to or cater the game for.

Yeah, buffing commandos while nerfing the Gauss Shotgun was pretty lame.

[Traveler]

Originally posted by nordmeyerx:

If you're running an automatic weapon + VATS build try this perk out. It's so much fun. It will automatically (chance) change to a new target and deal additional damage. You can just let the bullets fly.....until you run out of AP.

Yep, great perk but more than 1* is a waste. Or is it worth it if you have a heavy with quad legendary (otherwise you just run out of loaded ammo)?

[nordmeyerx]

Originally posted by nordmeyerx:

Yep, great perk but more than 1* is a waste. Or is it worth it if you have a heavy with quad legendary (otherwise you just run out of loaded ammo)?

I run 3 with an automatic Handmade. The extra % for damage when it switches targets helps conserve ammo. My AP usually runs out before I can switch to everything visible. I do have ammo issues (i.e. using more than I am picking up) with the Handmade, but with the Ammosmith perk and AmmoFactory Legendary Perk making more ammo is never an issue.

[dbond1]

I'm a free aim player in 76 mostly, and still have one rank of Gun-Fu for events. It does what it says on the tin and helps get tags in. But I use VATS so rarely I don't think it's worth it to drop three points for me. Love it in FO4 though.