Which PA is the best for pvp? Hellcat? Or maybe T 65?

[greathero]

[Dezktop]

stealth boys?

[Wack-A-Mole MLRS]

If you are going to play with the Veteran players who have been her for a long time-Nothing will help you . It will take you perhaps years to get where they are. Most of the old players (PVP) who I know who come back from time to time are almost unkillable. They can take off all their Armor and get naked and still kill you when you are ALL Geared up.. Good luck and maybe you can find some newbee's to work your way up....

[Sr Humungus]

Union? for poison resistance and choose other legendary card?

[Zenventius]

Originally posted by Wack-A-Mole MLRS:

players who have been her for a long time

Ah, the Godmother of pvp; I have been slain by her a few times.

[Grendalcat]

Well I can tell you that one time I accidentally made myself wanted by unlocking a door at someone's camp, and after a couple minutes they showed up and one-shotted me.
While I was wearing Aristocratic T-65.

[EVILE-VON-OVERKILLE]

Wearing excavation armor and destroying everybody I do not care what they have on

[PotatoBasket]

PvP in fallout (unless you're doing it strictly with your friends) is gonna have a par of ALL god roll equipment for your build. I recommend a Cola build, you're gonna wanna stock up those quantums. Then look up the best rolls for *each* piece of equipment - which PA type you use is more likely to hinge on that.

You might think you're geared. Ask Bloodpie or Phantom for a bout (respectfully). That will give you an idea of how far you have to go.

**In fact I would recommend following strictly the advice of those two if you can manage it (I don't often see them on the same threads, lol) and compare notes. Ignore what other users, including myself have so far as input on how to design your build. PvP min maxing has few routes to the tin can throne of 76.

[Wack-A-Mole MLRS]

The worst PVP'er to run into is a low level 100 Toon from a 5 yr. seasoned player..They are most likely holding 5 or 6 Legendary Perk cards and daddy's weapons and mommy's drugs...Baby with an attitude...and Spiked Boxing Gloves and a Ballistic, Energy, RAD resistant diaper...

[PotatoBasket]

Originally posted by Wack-A-Mole MLRS:

The worst PVP'er to run into is a low level 100 Toon from a 5 yr. seasoned player..They are most likely holding 5 or 6 Legendary Perk cards and daddy's weapons and mommy's drugs...Baby with an attitude...and Spiked Boxing Gloves and a Ballistic, Energy, RAD resistant diaper...

What was the deal with that boxing glove, anyway? Was it bugged or just super OP?

[greathero]

Originally posted by Wack-A-Mole MLRS:

If you are going to play with the Veteran players who have been her for a long time-Nothing will help you . It will take you perhaps years to get where they are. Most of the old players (PVP) who I know who come back from time to time are almost unkillable. They can take off all their Armor and get naked and still kill you when you are ALL Geared up.. Good luck and maybe you can find some newbee's to work your way up....

Naked or not but I think its all about my dm resist

[greathero]

Originally posted by Sr Humungus:

Union? for poison resistance and choose other legendary card?

Why poison res is popular in pvp? Because of strangnler heart armor?

[Wack-A-Mole MLRS]

I think the boxing gloves were best Bloodied with poison. Now you can put 3 stars on them-so you could come up with all kinds of stuff. Bloodied PVP'ers who play on a team and against each other like to play naked I guess because it's harder with no armor at all and can last longer than just one shot-one kill. When I played for fun with them with full gear it was like one-two -three punches and I was down anyway....

[Sr Humungus]

Originally posted by khasan14:

Originally posted by Sr Humungus:

Union? for poison resistance and choose other legendary card?

Why poison res is popular in pvp? Because of strangnler heart armor?

Im not a pvp player, but if i use my logic, you must have all resistances high, and having a full match of union PA gives 150 in poison, so, you can spend one legendary skill slot in something else, maybe there are better options? i dont know.

[Phantom]

PvP

Best tier is

Union - Full set provides poison resistance, legendary perk for fire resistance, PA makes you function immune to non vats and totally immune to rads

Strangler - Full set grants poison damage, AA FFR peppershaker is 500+ damage per hit and a LOT of people don't cover the weakness vs poison and fire so those are always good choices

Which leaves you weak to cryo

So you want

5x Assassins -15% player damage
5x Cryo +125 cryo resist
5x Sentinel -15% chance to block 75% of damage when still (or crouching, or jetpacking)

Really if you are over 50 points of resist against poison you are ok
100 points vs cold
100 points vs fire

You kind of want funky duds and sizzling style they make you immune to two elements
You kind of want taking one for the team as it makes you do 1.5x damage to the enemy

you want to have

Formula P if you want aim
Psychotats the 25% resist and bonus hp one if not

you want to have
blight soup
empath (and use a serum)
company tea
tato soup
gourd soup
the silt bean food that gives -% resistance to damage

either
Stimpack diffusers
Big Stimpacks
tons of nuka quantum

some camp buffs if you so want, but it'll be unnecessary by the time you don't die and lose them anyway

I use the AP restored on damage chest keeps dodgy going
jetpack on chest is less tanky but more mobile

Stealthboys are a MUST, and so is the perk... if stealth goes down you go down

As for weapons

TS E Dragon will one shot anyone with a critical to the face
Q FFR cryo is a mainstay
Executioners guns are good as its 1.5x damage not 40% its multiplicative

[greathero]

Originally posted by Phantom:

PvP

Best tier is

Union - Full set provides poison resistance, legendary perk for fire resistance, PA makes you function immune to non vats and totally immune to rads

Strangler - Full set grants poison damage, AA FFR peppershaker is 500+ damage per hit and a LOT of people don't cover the weakness vs poison and fire so those are always good choices

Which leaves you weak to cryo

So you want

5x Assassins -15% player damage
5x Cryo +125 cryo resist
5x Sentinel -15% chance to block 75% of damage when still (or crouching, or jetpacking)

Really if you are over 50 points of resist against poison you are ok
100 points vs cold
100 points vs fire

You kind of want funky duds and sizzling style they make you immune to two elements
You kind of want taking one for the team as it makes you do 1.5x damage to the enemy

you want to have

Formula P if you want aim
Psychotats the 25% resist and bonus hp one if not

you want to have
blight soup
empath (and use a serum)
company tea
tato soup
gourd soup
the silt bean food that gives -% resistance to damage

either
Stimpack diffusers
Big Stimpacks
tons of nuka quantum

some camp buffs if you so want, but it'll be unnecessary by the time you don't die and lose them anyway

I use the AP restored on damage chest keeps dodgy going
jetpack on chest is less tanky but more mobile

Stealthboys are a MUST, and so is the perk... if stealth goes down you go down

As for weapons

TS E Dragon will one shot anyone with a critical to the face
Q FFR cryo is a mainstay
Executioners guns are good as its 1.5x damage not 40% its multiplicative

This is big. Thank you