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Weird I also hear people hear people in the Brotherhood are happy with Shin. Only thing I heard about Ramani was that some people miss her. Which is fine. Some of those also mention they understand why Shin was the one taking over.
I wouldn't be able to pick Ramani though. She's not Brotherhood. She's just a well armed settler. She needed to move to Foundation and it would have all been nice and dandy and I wouldn't have had to shoot her.
Though to be honest, choosing Shin's side was a chore as he to be honest makes me want to put a bullet through his skull, he is the type of leader that pisses the hell out of all the various local groups, and ends up with them disliking or actively hating the brotherhood, problem is he is basically the poster boy type for the main BOS leadership.
Not really what I asked but nice of you to jump in and dump on him too, LOL. I don't like the BoS in any of the FO games except maybe 3, a little, but it is a military organization and in the military you don't ask questions you follow orders. That's what makes a military organization work. You have to cut out all that whiny emotional stuff. I think Ramani was too touchy feely and arbitrary and emotional to be a military leader plus she didn't follow orders, that's a big no no. If you don't like the BoS, get out otherwise do what your told. I would never be in the BoS.
But the main kicker was the "don't kill em we might be able to use that research". Same thing some people said about the experimentation and research on people the Nazis did. Some really horrible stuff, the WW2 japanese were prolly worse. So I been trying to kill that scientist since we found and I was shooting the other scientists while they were talking, LOL. So it really wasn't shin, it was they needed to die.
But, but, but my question was, "did Bethesda make it as as one sided it felt or did Ramani catch as much heck from the initiates as Shin did?"
First pride and now female leadership. Can't wait till you get to the Whitespring Refuge and tell us all about that place too.
WTF are u talking about? I just wanted to know if ramani caught as much crap as shin did. Why can no one just answer the question? I wasn't touting the virtues of the BoS, I was talking about how and what they were and that shin was more militant like than ramani and that was only in response to someone else's response. just get over yourself already. Nice name calling btw, always the fall back of the less intelligent.
If you disagree with my points, we can address it and have a discussion but I see you choose to use insults instead of logic. Must be great to be you
Really makes me laugh. If you only knew me you'd be embarrassed. if you had the smarts to be.
I dont know about Beth wanting a tough leader, i mean one of the main quests is that Overseer lady who was chosen to be a leader of 76. I guess sweet feely too kind people and pushovers would not do well in political leadership roles. i mean look at in real life, Jimmy Carter used to get picked on with his peanut farms but he was a kind just leader. And the cold hearted ones are terrible. everyone will suffer. and theres no happiness to be found.
is there a happy medium?
Edit oh what did you mean did Ramani get as much heckling? Well look at Shin's behaviour. What do you think? Do you think most people want a meanie A-hole? but he knows his job. So its allright i guess. sigh. I guess youre used to strong military stiff tough guys.
Although honestly, the choice doesn't really seem to matter much. The only difference I remember is who does the talking at the end scene.
I don't remember this at all but I did run through the quest line, skipping a lot. I really couldn't stand Ramani, she made a mistake and tried to cover it up. This was the biggest factor in me choosing Shin. She had no business being in BoS, I agree that her personality better fits Foundation.
However, on my alt I'm choosing Ramani just to see what difference there is.
*Ultimately charisma is more important than right or wrong in a leader of stupid people. So no, you don't get nearly as much ♥♥♥♥ from the other Appalachian BoS NPCs PROVIDED you let him go instead of knifing em.
You hoping the community forgot your other thread?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1151340/discussions/?fp=7
Scared of strong, strong independent women? I really hope the community sees what you really are and stop engaging with you.
Why aren't you in that thread but instead here, crying about it?
Ramani is not a strong, independent woman. She's a coward who can't take responsibility for her own mistakes and would rather sabotage the organization and go rogue than face consequences.
This really just supports Mooman's point about the continued unintentional redneckery.
It has nothing to do with the genders of the characters. If Ramani was a guy, would the critique of their character still be considered "redneck"? Sorry that you both can't see past that. Gender identity politics really puts holes in peoples brains.
Yeah that one was fun :-) BTW You have no idea who or "what" I am. You couldn't wrap your tiny head around it
Thanks, Although you didn't really answer the question, I'm guessing that she did not from your tone that she did not. I don't really give a rat's but about either of them. I just wanted to know if Big Beth was pushing us one way or another. They like to do that. Then everyone started discussing how THEY felt about the decision/choice, which I didn't actually ask for so I thought I'd stir the pot.
It's a good thing no one here was alive when there was REAL anti gay, lesbian, and trans discrimination. They used to could just fire you for being gay and you couldn't do anything about. They could refuse to serve you in a store or restaurant and you couldn't do anything. Now there are laws against that stuff. And high school? it wasn't trendy, it was an insult and the closet was full to the brim. Most of the anti-gay stuff today is manufactured, most people don't care anymore. They grew up with it. It's just not a thing anymore except on tiktok.
Have fun being offended lol