failed to place camp, now i can't place my camp anywhere. argh

[Rick]

Hi everyone. I finally started into '76.

Maybe someone can give me some help'
I built my camp not far from the wayward.
3 separate "buildings".
When i logged into the game another day it told me that the camp cannot be placed and gave me a free placement.
sounded good to me.
Previously i simply exited the game and logged in until my camp placed.
figured i would try the free placement, i should have known better.
i went and tried placing my camp in another location. the area was clear of obstacles etc.
no matter what i do, spin, move, everything it will not let me place any of the stored "buildings". always says "needs support" whenever it turned blue.
i even tried in the exact same location.
From what I can see, i have to start all over and build it from scratch.

- is there something I can do?
- if not, how can i at least scrap the buildings stored and recover the materials in some way?

The one building that had my ally was able to place, after 20+ tries. i reduced it to a 2x2 structure, seems i can place that ok. Logged out, and again, can't place camp so i tried another location.
My other structure is 2x8. After that I spent many a cap moving my camp around many locations on the map. it will not place. I even tried in the middle of the road in a few places. (all concrete/roadway, not even a weed in the way.

I can only assume something about that building is an issue. Perhaps the bunker utility room? electrical? workbenches? cooking fire?

this is definitely a potential game breaker for me.
too bad, i have thousands of hours in fallout4 without anything like this.

anybody have some insight?

R

[Rick]

Ah yes. i will try building a second camp. The issue I am having is I can't place the first one that was 'stored'. Not just near the wayward, but anywhere.

[insert food here]

NEVER EVER try to move your camp. The chances it will actually place down in a new location are somewhere between slim to nil. Unless you have purpose built your camp to be moved it basically aint going to happen.

Change servers or use the other camp slots to build a second camp to switch to when your first camp cannot be placed down.

Unfortunately it looks like you are going to have to scrap everything in the stored tab and start over. Lesson learnt.

[BizarreMan]

If you scrap the stored item, it will give you all of the floors, walls, ceilings, benches, etc in the stored tab and you can re-assemble them in a new location.

There are several things that will prevent a camp from being placed in a new, or even the old location.

1) Having a door installed in a frame.
2) Having stairs that go from the foundation into the ground.
3) Having shelter entrances inside the building.
4) The terrain being different at the new location.

Since you are a newbie, you only know a few places on the map where you might want to build a camp. Unfortunately, every other newbie knows those same places, and every some locations are used by experienced players so they can cater to newbies.

The thing we've learned over the many hours of playing the game is we never move the camp until we're ready to move the camp, and we never expect to put down the old building at a new spot.

[Rick]

ah. well, started on camp2. will scrap camp1 and start it over soon. good things to know.

[PotatoBasket]

Originally posted by Rick:

ah. well, started on camp2. will scrap camp1 and start it over soon. good things to know.

Building camps *can be* fun, IF you like it to start with. It's really not so bad now that survival mode is removed (you used to be able to starve to death while building a camp, no joke, no fun). I recommend having a mobile camp like bloodpie mentioned for one of the slots if you're not a first subscriber. A single foundation "tower" style building is ideal for this. In general what IFH is spot on once you have a camp you really love. If you move it it will never be the same; which highlights a vital point, that the location of your camp matters more than the camp. Some areas get nuked for farming, other areas are more prone to mob or even horde spawns that will wreck you bulding, some locales players frequently encounter by accident while others will literally never be discovered, and some spots are just too good to pass up - that view!

But until you find that perfect spot for you I'd just consider it good practice. Most of all don't look at these bits of advice as rules, and try things out for yourself; you're way more likely to end up with a camp you love by doing you rather than what we each do.

[BizarreMan]

I've been playing since the BETA and my three main characters have their primary camps in different locations, but have had those primary camps for years. The other camp slots are for testing, or moving things around.

One thing I like to do when my camp is blocked is look and see how the the other player developed that particular spot. Some people have done some great things. Others have camps that really drop the property value in the neighborhood and you wonder how the HOA let them stand.

So yup, keep looking around and you will find "the perfect spot" for you.

[Rick]

yup. so far i like the side of the road just outside foundation.
A basic 2x2 armed "bunker".
just enough to put my stash, a couple benches, vendor, fusion core charger and water purifier.
Plus as many turrets as it would allow.

.... should I have told you all that?

hmm

lol

[PotatoBasket]

Originally posted by Rick:

yup. so far i like the side of the road just outside foundation.
A basic 2x2 armed "bunker".
just enough to put my stash, a couple benches, vendor, fusion core charger and water purifier.
Plus as many turrets as it would allow.

.... should I have told you all that?

hmm

lol

Turrets are the buggiest camp item you can have, and one of the most expensive. For a camp like that you shouldn't need more than three upgraded machine gun turrets, and that's still pushing it. You can probably get away with none where you're at.

[BizarreMan]

Originally posted by PotatoBasket:

Originally posted by Rick:

yup. so far i like the side of the road just outside foundation.
A basic 2x2 armed "bunker".
just enough to put my stash, a couple benches, vendor, fusion core charger and water purifier.
Plus as many turrets as it would allow.

.... should I have told you all that?

hmm

lol

Turrets are the buggiest camp item you can have, and one of the most expensive. For a camp like that you shouldn't need more than three upgraded machine gun turrets, and that's still pushing it. You can probably get away with none where you're at.

At that location I wouldn't expect turrets to be needed. Then again, I'm of the school that turrets aren't needed and are more trouble than they are worth.

Road outside Foundation is going to be occupied a LOT. I know several different people who keep vendor camps there.

[Rick]

YUP. i figured. i put it there for the same reason. vendor.

strangely, it has been attacked three times in my last session. two supermutants first, and twice now by robots.

fun keeping up finding gears for repairs....