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Dolphie16 26 lipca 2022 o 13:00
Pc stucks so theres lag and i dont want to buy a new one
So i have a Pc from 2010 and i don't want to waste money on buying a new one so does anyone have any tips on how to at least improve graphics without exploding my Pc
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Dolphie16 3 września 2022 o 17:24 
well for the stoarge i ment TB not Gb sorry
and i also have 64 bit cpu. But i dont have a physical graphics card :/
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Dolphie16; 3 września 2022 o 17:26
msy 3 września 2022 o 22:54 
Well, if we are going to talk hardware, here's mine.

i7-9700 cpu running 64 bit
Nvidia RTX 2060
48G RAM
Many Terabytes free storage on both HDs and SSDs
DtHouse 3 września 2022 o 23:00 
It's hard to help if we don't know what rig he have. I could have a top gaming for 2010 and maybe it's still good, just need a lil upgrade on GPU or SSD. My old AMD FX-8350 could run Fallout 4 with no problem, probably he could run fo76 too, but not the old graphics card i had xD An Nvidia GTX 550Ti 1 gb ram xD
Początkowo opublikowane przez Dolphie16:
if anyone sees this then here are my specs
Processor- amd A-8-5500 apu with radeon(tm) HD draphics 3.20 ghz
installed ram- 8,00 GB
and i think i have a 1.500 Gb of storage(442 is free) ssd btw
I dont have a grpahics card btw ooof


If you click help then "system information" steam will give you system information that you can copy/paste here . Tbh your biggest issue here is the lack of a gpu , the on board graphics are not good for gaming then the second issue is ram as 8 gb was "OK" for the era that it was built in but now its around 16gb-32gb for modern games then your cpu . All in all its better to replace it with a custom built desktop if you need a gaming rig than to upgrade this .

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dolphie16:
i dont have a physical graphics card :/

Thats your entire problem there , onboard graphics are horrible if not impossible to do any major gaming on .
Ostatnio edytowany przez: ⚔️☠Reaper☠⚔; 4 września 2022 o 1:27
4mysou1just1 4 września 2022 o 3:34 
Początkowo opublikowane przez ☢Reaper☢:
Początkowo opublikowane przez Dolphie16:
if anyone sees this then here are my specs
Processor- amd A-8-5500 apu with radeon(tm) HD draphics 3.20 ghz
installed ram- 8,00 GB
and i think i have a 1.500 Gb of storage(442 is free) ssd btw
I dont have a grpahics card btw ooof


If you click help then "system information" steam will give you system information that you can copy/paste here . Tbh your biggest issue here is the lack of a gpu , the on board graphics are not good for gaming then the second issue is ram as 8 gb was "OK" for the era that it was built in but now its around 16gb-32gb for modern games then your cpu . All in all its better to replace it with a custom built desktop if you need a gaming rig than to upgrade this .

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dolphie16:
i dont have a physical graphics card :/

Thats your entire problem there , onboard graphics are horrible if not impossible to do any major gaming on .
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AHMEN!
He needs a better PC not just for 76 but for all newer games.
His road to find a used PC that's better is going to be hard.
He will have to research every pc he looks at...
But he WILL gain much needed knowledge!
Dolphie16 dO Not attempt to build your own.
Too risky based on your attempt to just convey your stats.
Ask friends, family, your school maintenance man for any old computers.
Collect info from them and google it.
Maybe a Pawnshop might work.
Just not a laptop...
Good luck.
Please share your findings with us.
:steamthumbsup:
Bobby Digital™ 4 września 2022 o 4:47 
you're going to need to spend at least $350 on some new parts, the game needs a modern cpu...doesn't have to be an expensive one, just modern.

something like a 12400f, a cheap but good mother board and a couple sticks of 8gb ram.
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Początkowo opublikowane przez ☢Reaper☢:


If you click help then "system information" steam will give you system information that you can copy/paste here . Tbh your biggest issue here is the lack of a gpu , the on board graphics are not good for gaming then the second issue is ram as 8 gb was "OK" for the era that it was built in but now its around 16gb-32gb for modern games then your cpu . All in all its better to replace it with a custom built desktop if you need a gaming rig than to upgrade this .



Thats your entire problem there , onboard graphics are horrible if not impossible to do any major gaming on .
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AHMEN!
He needs a better PC not just for 76 but for all newer games.
His road to find a used PC that's better is going to be hard.
He will have to research every pc he looks at...
But he WILL gain much needed knowledge!
Dolphie16 dO Not attempt to build your own.
Too risky based on your attempt to just convey your stats.
Ask friends, family, your school maintenance man for any old computers.
Collect info from them and google it.
Maybe a Pawnshop might work.
Just not a laptop...
Good luck.
Please share your findings with us.
:steamthumbsup:

Honestly its as easy as putting legos together , the most difficult part is making sure specs line up such as power and what hardware is known to work with others but most part makers have a compatibility chart on their websites for their products but those are just what they have tested(doesnt mean non listed parts wont work) but it is a starting point .

I do agree on the laptop part though as they are not a good investment for gaming as there is not a wide market for upgrades for laptops unlike their desktop counterparts which everything can be upgraded . There is however "fashionable"/trendy brands out there that market themselves as a gaming laptop but there is still the lack of upgrade ability on them at least for market parts (there is some that you can upgrade but only to a limited extent but are still bound by the psu ) .
Dolphie16 4 września 2022 o 13:17 
Yeah i have watched some tutorials on how to build a gaming pc, and

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Początkowo opublikowane przez ☢Reaper☢:


If you click help then "system information" steam will give you system information that you can copy/paste here . Tbh your biggest issue here is the lack of a gpu , the on board graphics are not good for gaming then the second issue is ram as 8 gb was "OK" for the era that it was built in but now its around 16gb-32gb for modern games then your cpu . All in all its better to replace it with a custom built desktop if you need a gaming rig than to upgrade this .



Thats your entire problem there , onboard graphics are horrible if not impossible to do any major gaming on .
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AHMEN!
He needs a better PC not just for 76 but for all newer games.
His road to find a used PC that's better is going to be hard.
He will have to research every pc he looks at...
But he WILL gain much needed knowledge!
Dolphie16 dO Not attempt to build your own.
Too risky based on your attempt to just convey your stats.
Ask friends, family, your school maintenance man for any old computers.
Collect info from them and google it.
Maybe a Pawnshop might work.
Just not a laptop...
Good luck.
Please share your findings with us.
:steamthumbsup:

i'm watching how to build a pc on yt and i do know how to build stuff. its just that i sort of dont got the money to :/ and my i dont like using a lot of money on one thing :/. i will look into finding old pc parts from my friends and a pawnshop (cant do family because fam members live across the country) Thanks anyways you all
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Dolphie16; 4 września 2022 o 13:23
Dolphie16 4 września 2022 o 13:31 
Oh yeah reaper here is the thing you wanted me to show you

Computer Information:
Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
Model: p7-1235
Form Factor: Desktop
No Touch Input Detected

Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: AuthenticAMD
CPU Brand: AMD A8-5500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
CPU Family: 0x15
CPU Model: 0x10
CPU Stepping: 0x1
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 3194 Mhz
4 logical processors
2 physical processors
HyperThreading: Supported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Supported
SSE41: Supported
SSE42: Supported
AES: Supported
AVX: Supported
AVX2: Unsupported
AVX512F: Unsupported
AVX512PF: Unsupported
AVX512ER: Unsupported
AVX512CD: Unsupported
AVX512VNNI: Unsupported
SHA: Unsupported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Unsupported

Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0

Video Card:
Driver: AMD Radeon HD 7560D
DirectX Driver Name: aticfx32.dll
Driver Version: 15.200.1060.0
DirectX Driver Version: 8.17.10.1404
Driver Date: 7 15 2015
OpenGL Version: 3.2
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
DirectX Card: AMD Radeon HD 7560D
VendorID: 0x1002
DeviceID: 0x9904
Revision Not Detected
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Primary Display Size: 18.90" x 10.63" (21.65" diag)
48.0cm x 27.0cm (55.0cm diag)
Primary Bus Type Not Detected
Primary VRAM: 512 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x

Sound card:
Audio device: Speakers (High Definition Audio

Memory:
RAM: 7606 MB

VR Hardware:
VR Headset: None detected

Miscellaneous:
UI Language: English
Media Type: DVD
Total Hard Disk Space Available: 1413343 MB
Largest Free Hard Disk Block: 476141 MB
OS Install Date: Dec 07 2020
Game Controller: HP Deluxe Webcam KQ246AA detected
MAC Address hash: 26a7669f06b41d581056893c224da30337db85c1

Storage:
Disk serial number hash: 6535ccaa
Number of SSDs: 0
Number of HDDs: 2
HDD sizes: 1000G500G
Mooman 4 września 2022 o 13:52 
With the VRAM only being 512MB and probably shared with system RAM it'll be a struggle, if at all.

You'd have to edit the Fallout76prefs.ini file to remove all shadows, all grass, lower all texture settings to low quality (most important for low VRAM), put all draw distances as low as possible.

Even at the absolute lowest settings it don't think you could get it playable, but you'd have to try first before it a failure.
⚔️☠Reaper☠⚔ 4 września 2022 o 20:16 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Dolphie16:
Oh yeah reaper here is the thing you wanted me to show you

Computer Information:
Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
Model: p7-1235
Form Factor: Desktop
No Touch Input Detected

Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: AuthenticAMD
CPU Brand: AMD A8-5500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
CPU Family: 0x15
CPU Model: 0x10
CPU Stepping: 0x1
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 3194 Mhz
4 logical processors
2 physical processors
HyperThreading: Supported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Supported
SSE41: Supported
SSE42: Supported
AES: Supported
AVX: Supported
AVX2: Unsupported
AVX512F: Unsupported
AVX512PF: Unsupported
AVX512ER: Unsupported
AVX512CD: Unsupported
AVX512VNNI: Unsupported
SHA: Unsupported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Unsupported

Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0

Video Card:
Driver: AMD Radeon HD 7560D
DirectX Driver Name: aticfx32.dll
Driver Version: 15.200.1060.0
DirectX Driver Version: 8.17.10.1404
Driver Date: 7 15 2015
OpenGL Version: 3.2
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
DirectX Card: AMD Radeon HD 7560D
VendorID: 0x1002
DeviceID: 0x9904
Revision Not Detected
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Primary Display Size: 18.90" x 10.63" (21.65" diag)
48.0cm x 27.0cm (55.0cm diag)
Primary Bus Type Not Detected
Primary VRAM: 512 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x

Sound card:
Audio device: Speakers (High Definition Audio

Memory:
RAM: 7606 MB

VR Hardware:
VR Headset: None detected


Storage:
Disk serial number hash: 6535ccaa
Number of SSDs: 0
Number of HDDs: 2
HDD sizes: 1000G500G

That will help people diagnose things much easier in the future . Since you posted the model number here is a link to HP supports website that can provide you with some information assuming you bought this pc brand new and it hasnt been altered since .https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-pavilion-p7-1200-desktop-pc-series/5187022/model/5233650/document/c03359127 . If you dont trust the link just put your model number p7-1235 into a search engine and it will appear .

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dolphie16:
Yeah i have watched some tutorials on how to build a gaming pc, and

Początkowo opublikowane przez 4mysou1just1:
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AHMEN!
He needs a better PC not just for 76 but for all newer games.
His road to find a used PC that's better is going to be hard.
He will have to research every pc he looks at...
But he WILL gain much needed knowledge!
Dolphie16 dO Not attempt to build your own.
Too risky based on your attempt to just convey your stats.
Ask friends, family, your school maintenance man for any old computers.
Collect info from them and google it.
Maybe a Pawnshop might work.
Just not a laptop...
Good luck.
Please share your findings with us.
:steamthumbsup:

i'm watching how to build a pc on yt and i do know how to build stuff. its just that i sort of dont got the money to :/ and my i dont like using a lot of money on one thing :/. i will look into finding old pc parts from my friends and a pawnshop (cant do family because fam members live across the country) Thanks anyways you all

I understand how that goes , i managed to make my last pc last around 10 years roughly and also couldnt upgrade due to how expensive things are so one had to make due with what one had . In future stay away from any "cookie cutter" computers that come pre built as their often overpriced and under perform . For example your motherboard and psu are bare bones with little room for expansion so it was had a specific goal to meet when it was made and upgradeability and gaming wasnt one of them , Just to note i am NOT knocking your pc at all as i know we all get what we can so my mentioning of this was purely for future reference only so you can save money in the long haul .:steamthumbsup:

I do have some suggestions for a future build and for anyone else that may read this in the future .

SSD (solid state drive) ---of your preferred brand and load only OS (operating system and basic tools onto it) then place everything else onto another drive such as for games. Around 500gb ssd should be sufficient for any tools and os you may need to install and helps keep backup easier .

Hard drives--- for storage or for gaming as it generally only affects load times (ram does too to an extent but not talking about that here) but try to go with 7200rpm or higher as a rough guideline as there is more specs to consider but keeping it simple as often enough drives in that range are decent already . Generally the lower rpm drives are for reduced use/storage methods and will severely hinder your performance in games.

Ram---Try to get as much ram as possible as 8 gb was on its way out not long after your pc was built for higher end gaming , try to range for 16-32gb at least . Also speeds you will want to look for one that is compatible with your motherboard max supported speeds .

Power supply ---find one that is at least gold standard/rated and has a good warranty (some can be found to have 5-10 year warranty) . When searching for a psu try to upsize it slightly so you have room for upgrades later on down the road as you dont want to "redline" a psu (graphics cards are the most power hungry thing on a computer besides cooling and the cpu)

Motherboard---This will be the skeleton effectively of your pc as everything plugs into it so make sure you cross reference everything you plan for it and make sure its compatible with it .

Cooling ---depends on your climate and what hardware is involved as there is several options but most are just personal preference

Sound- Sometimes a sound card is needed as the motherboard sometimes has low quality audio BUT that is changing as some boards are including good sound components that often render sound cards useless

Nic cards (network interface cards) ---pick a good one up such as intel (their good in this area) and rosewill are good for example if only your motherboard has lower performing port on it .

Graphics processing unit aka graphics card ---Not all graphics cards are for gaming (majority are though) . I would suggest getting a gpu with a capability of 6-8gb at the minimum (there are other specs that could be mentioned but keeping it simple and rough) . For the gtx/rtx 10 ,20 and 30 series there is several variations that you may have seen such as 1050,1060,1070,1080 series etc(this applies to the 20 and 30 series as well) The 50s are the "entry level' gpus but i would suggest going with the 60s for bare minimum as its a step up from the entry level while the 70 and 80s are the higher end (higher number the higher the performance often enough) . The RTX series has been finicky since they launched it in which some people experience oddities that other lines do not so keep that in mind as well if you end up picking up a rtx series card (not saying dont purchase one just be aware of it) , drivers updates have fixed many of the rtx issues over time so the oddities are less and less .

There is amd gpus as well but personally i cant recommend them as i never used them.

Case ---This is a simple one but make sure its large enough for proper cooling and for upgrades that you may want to do in the future such as drive bays ,radiator attachment points etc .

cpu---This will cause debate as everyone has their own personal preference(as well as on the other suggestions i made) but over the years ive noticed that amd offers more "bang" for the buck over intel . Intel may come out ahead in some areas but the extra cost isnt worth it tbh .

Monitor-- check out a nice monitor 120hz or higher to take full advantage of a modern gpu but remember not to always watch a fps (frames per second counter) unless your diagnosing something as many users end up watching a fps meter that has very little to no affect on actual gameplay .

keyboard/mouse---A good keyboard mouse combo will make everyday use of the computer much better than the standard generic parts that come with a pc . A gaming mouse with buttons on side you can program to do many things even outside of games such as having a button to go forward or back a page while browsing the internet , creating macros ( effectively a set of key strokes programmed to one key ) or multiple clicking options per one click . Some keyboards are lighted and surprisingly enough that is a useful feature and some have screens on them as well which can monitor your pc loads , music playlist , news streams etc

Quality --- Remember price does not equal quality or performance at all (applies to anything tbh) and when it comes to electronics heat is a destroyer of them so keep that in mind especially when hunting for second hand parts , Also keep look a lookout to see if things were overclocked or not (this would apply to ram ,cpu and gpu) .

Surge protector --- With a valuable thing such as a gaming pc protecting it is important so pick up surge protector that has a warranty on it that covers electronics that are plugged into it in case it fails such as APC . To note surge protectors/arrestor often are misidentified as a power strip which do not protect your pc at all .

Hopefully this will help you or others that read this :wowsyes:
DtHouse 4 września 2022 o 22:39 
AMD GPU have some lil problem with overheat xD You need to have a very good airflow, i don't know the RTX becuase they are too expensive (and for me with no reason, you can buy a pre-assembled pc with the price of 1 RTX xD) and i don't like to waste money.
Dragon 4 września 2022 o 22:44 
Get a job. Buy new PC. Use it for 12 years. Buy new PC.
Dragon 4 września 2022 o 22:47 
Dont buy someones old used crap. Yeah, it can be cheaper but if something goes wrong and your first build doesn't boot, you will have NO idea which part is the culprit. Better off to either buy one prebuilt or have a friend build you one with new parts. Everyone knows a PC nerd who can build them a PC. I promise. GO to the nerd table next time you are at lunch (assuming you are still in school) and make a friend. They will build you a PC and do it for free because PC nerds are weird and we do ♥♥♥♥ like that.
DtHouse 4 września 2022 o 23:28 
If the nerd it's a girl it's even better xD You can get a pc and a girlfriend maybe o,o after you don't need the pc anymore :D
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