Fallout 1st Value for Money?

[routier1642]

I believe in financially supporting online games, and often subscribe.
The Fallout 1st deal makes me hesitate, however. It doesn't provide much that I'd want, and is expensive into the bargain.
Bethesda needs to look at what other online games provide for monthly subscriptions: discounts in the shop, free gifts every month, exclusive items that are actually useful, greater capacities etc.
DCUO, for example, gives me a lot of everyday value for less money than Fallout 1st.

[Aesthier]

Make legacy weapons only usable on Fallout 1st Private/Custom servers that would add some value.

[PorcusGrunzus]

Yeah, it doesn't offer enough and can be ignored. Might be worth it below 10 Euro but quite frankly with the shoddy job Bethesda does fixing and providing content for this game, I would think twice paying them extra money anyway. Why would you reward them?

Now compare Fallout 1st to the Elder Scrolls Online subscription and you will see that ESO is actually cheaper and has WAY more content.

[oni]

I pay for it when am put in hours on the game, Then I get bored and stop play. Bethesda has us by the balls with the scrap bin which with private servers is the only thing good about the whole setup. Bethesda has to line their pockets like all the other major game studios and it has tarnished them as a company.

[Fluffy Chops]

Are you playing way past around level 200?

Are you coming on the game mostly daily?

Are you ok with grinding for the heck of it you know like the scoreboard and the events for years of your life.


If yes to all three then fallout 1st is made for you.

Cause for real you technically can play and even beat the game (missions) without needing fallout 1st all you need to do is have good storage management skills thats all.

I feel for what fallout 1st offers you its only for those who play past they prime as most either get it for the scrapbox or the fallout 1st hut so they can quickly fast travel to those events that trigger like every hour other then that 1st is quite bit of a waste of your cash if your not really one of those players that stays for years on end.

[routier1642]

Thanks for the comments. Pretty much what I thought.

[Unholy]

I feel like you missed alot of the things Fallout 1st does.

Besides unique emotes and discounts, you actually get free items, lots of them.
You also get a big bag of Atoms every month to spend in the shop.

You get a tent you can place everywhere to scrap, cook, sleep and store.

You get infinite storage for your scrap, I am well past 1000 quanity on every item, almost hitting 10k on steel for example.

While everyone needs to access his financial situation, I feel like 14€ a month is not that much.

Some people order food for 30€ several times a month.

[The Kook who Cooks]

Originally posted by Naya:

I feel like you missed alot of the things Fallout 1st does.

Besides unique emotes and discounts, you actually get free items, lots of them.
You also get a big bag of Atoms every month to spend in the shop.

Paying a subscription =/= FREE items

Congratulations on falling for the marketing.

Originally posted by Naya:

You get a tent you can place everywhere to scrap, cook, sleep and store.

You can do the exact same thing (and even more) with a dedicated CAMP and a blueprinted 2x2 foundation which can be moved for an arbitrary amount of caps.

Originally posted by Naya:

You get infinite storage for your scrap, I am well past 1000 quanity on every item, almost hitting 10k on steel for example.

Literally the only thing of "value" in 1st

I.E. The barrel they have the player-base over.

You are paying REAL money just to store DIGITAL items you aren't even using... Great value there!

Originally posted by Naya:

While everyone needs to access his financial situation, I feel like 14€ a month is not that much.

Just because it's "not that much" doesn't mean it's WORTH that much.

The Heroic map pack in Halo 3 was only $10 but was eventually made free because of community backlash over 3 maps not being worth 1/6th of a game's retail price, and that was a one-time purchase.

Sadly, the days where people stood up for things has been replaced with endless apologising on the developers behalf and having to go along with the scummy business practices because not enough people could keep their money in their pockets and bought the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horse armour and other pathetic excuses for 'content' that slowly but surely lead us to this point.

Originally posted by Naya:

Some people order food for 30€ several times a month.

At least they got a complete meal and didn't get charged separately for the use of the TABLE & CHAIRS because the restaurant decided to remove a fundamental part of the dining experience to further increase their profits at the expense of the end user.

[jerrypocalypse]

Personally, I think it's worth it if you play daily, or.almost daily, for the month you're subscribed. And if you're buying Atoms anyway, might as well sub for the month instead since you get those monthly Atoms.

One thing I think they did right with it is letting you continue to withdraw scrap from the scrapbox after the sub ends. So even if you sub for just a month, you can stockpile scrap and live off the scrapbox until you sub again, if you choose to.

You get a couple cosmetic 1st items now and then, and get additional rewards from the Scoreboard. So if you want to support the game, but not have a consistent monthly sub, it might be worth it just to sub for a single month now and then during a Scoreboard to get the extra goodies and fill up your scrapbox.

[Aesthier]

Originally posted by Ayy Doll-Fit Lure:

Sadly, the days where people stood up for things has been replaced with endless apologising on the developers behalf and having to go along with the scummy business practices because not enough people could keep their money in their pockets ...

I would agree with that on many different levels and not just video games.

Everything from government to business; more excuses & less value, more pressured consumerism and less choice.

But hey at the end of the day with all the products and services I have blacklisted I am going to spend my money someplace and low quality gaming is far less harmful in comparison to the things that effect real life.

[Fluffy Chops]

Originally posted by Naya:

I feel like you missed alot of the things Fallout 1st does.

Besides unique emotes and discounts, you actually get free items, lots of them.

You need a rain check your are paying to get those items to be able to be unlocked for you so yeah it really isn't classed as free items if you got to pay to even get them is it other then that solid comment.

Edited note: Made a mistake its already been quoted so no point fully hiding my comment please ignore and sorry in advance Naya, its still a nice solid comment you did for sure tho. :D

[jerrypocalypse]

Originally posted by FC: Goatlife:

Originally posted by Naya:

I feel like you missed alot of the things Fallout 1st does.

Besides unique emotes and discounts, you actually get free items, lots of them.

You need a rain check your are paying to get those items to be able to be unlocked for you so yeah it really isn't classed as free items if you got to pay to even get them is it other then that solid comment.

Semantics. It's clear they simply mean you don't have pay extra for those "gifts" on top of the 1st membership.

[Fluffy Chops]

Originally posted by jerrypocalypse:

Originally posted by FC: Goatlife:

You need a rain check your are paying to get those items to be able to be unlocked for you so yeah it really isn't classed as free items if you got to pay to even get them is it other then that solid comment.

Semantics. It's clear they simply mean you don't have pay extra for those "gifts" on top of the 1st membership.

Oh your right clearly read it all wrong, my bad. Only human after all.

[Kuriva]

in my country is very cheap fallout 1st , it's cheaper than buying 1000 atoms

[Unholy]

Originally posted by Ayy Doll-Fit Lure:

Originally posted by Naya:

I feel like you missed alot of the things Fallout 1st does.

Besides unique emotes and discounts, you actually get free items, lots of them.
You also get a big bag of Atoms every month to spend in the shop.

Paying a subscription =/= FREE items

Congratulations on falling for the marketing.

Originally posted by Naya:

You get a tent you can place everywhere to scrap, cook, sleep and store.

You can do the exact same thing (and even more) with a dedicated CAMP and a blueprinted 2x2 foundation which can be moved for an arbitrary amount of caps.

Originally posted by Naya:

You get infinite storage for your scrap, I am well past 1000 quanity on every item, almost hitting 10k on steel for example.

Literally the only thing of "value" in 1st

I.E. The barrel they have the player-base over.

You are paying REAL money just to store DIGITAL items you aren't even using... Great value there! :captainclown:

Originally posted by Naya:

While everyone needs to access his financial situation, I feel like 14€ a month is not that much.

Just because it's "not that much" doesn't mean it's WORTH that much.

The Heroic map pack in Halo 3 was only $10 but was eventually made free because of community backlash over 3 maps not being worth 1/6th of a game's retail price, and that was a one-time purchase.

Sadly, the days where people stood up for things has been replaced with endless apologising on the developers behalf and having to go along with the scummy business practices because not enough people could keep their money in their pockets and bought the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horse armour and other pathetic excuses for 'content' that slowly but surely lead us to this point.

Originally posted by Naya:

Some people order food for 30€ several times a month.

At least they got a complete meal and didn't get charged separately for the use of the TABLE & CHAIRS because the restaurant decided to remove a fundamental part of the dining experience to further increase their profits at the expense of the end user.

Thats a whole lot of whining for 14 euro a month.

Fallout 1st is worth it for a lot of people, the convience is just nice to have. Sure it should not be like this in the first place, but I don't spent my free time arguing over a video game

[william_es]

If you're a crafter, or a hoarder, or just have OCD, then fallout 1st is pretty much essential.

Just for the unlimited scrap storage.

I consider the game pretty much unplayable without it. Yes, I _could_ just walk past all that scrap junk, and NOT hoover it all up. But it makes my finders itch when I don't grab everything.