This game really needed a chat tab

[Regulas]

This game barely feels like a multiplayer. It's more a solo game. The emoji cant do much for getting your point across to other players at the repetitive events.
They would have been better off making this game fallout 5 co-op but from what I hear when it launched it was in such bad shape..........

[Arcanix]

Escrito originalmente por Regulas:

Don't try and blame capitalism for people being rude and obnoxious

Hey now, money talks they say.

[GarfieldCultist]

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Fallout is traditionally single player.

This is not a point. The VAST majority of online games and MMO's were "traditionally single player games" before becoming online games. Call of Duty was traditionally a single player game. Warcraft was traditionally a single player game. Final Fantasy was traditionally a single player game. Star Wars traditionally had single player games. Elder Scrolls was traditionally a single player game. Lord of the Rings traditionally had single player games. Halo was traditionally a single player game. Grand Theft Auto was traditionally a single player game. Tom Clancy games were traditionally single player games. DC Comics games were traditionally single player games.

Why is it ok for ALL of those to be online but somehow when Fallout makes a multiplayer game, something the original creators ALWAYS wanted to do, suddenly everyone starts chanting "Fallout was traditionally single-player" like they're in some friggin' cult?

[Papa Shekels]

The game's "community" decided that the risk of seeing some naughty words in text chat was too much and everybody else should be deprived of that feature because of them. The only online interaction you're allowed to have is getting all your kills stolen by a cheated gun at an event

[sascomander]

The game is console focused and most games on console do not include text chat as the overwhelming majority of players do not have a chatpad (A mini keyboard that connects to your controller) or a regular keyboard attached to their console. There are console games that have text chat but most games don't bother to include it. Voice chat is largely the way console players communicate unless they are sending a private message but you can also send a voiced message as well.

PC is an afterthought with this game as its the smallest community of the three platforms its on.

[Bored Peon]

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Warcraft was traditionally a single player game.

Warcraft was always a multiplayer game by LAN and modem.

[GarfieldCultist]

Escrito originalmente por Bored Peon:

Escrito originalmente por Deklend:

Warcraft was traditionally a single player game.

Warcraft was always a multiplayer game by LAN and modem.

So was Fallout Tactics, so I suppose that negates the whole argument that Fallout was traditionally a single-player game.

[Oshutoru]

@Regulas

You can try using the chat mod from Nexusmods. It works. people use it. It only depends on your place & time.
Also you should not get banned for using it.
Here is the link to the mod:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout76/mods/151

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Escrito originalmente por Bored Peon:

Warcraft was always a multiplayer game by LAN and modem.

So was Fallout Tactics, so I suppose that negates the whole argument that Fallout was traditionally a single-player game.

Agree with Deklend.
It is funny that this should be an argument against MMO, multiplayer, etc.
The old origin Fallout fan base had always an interest in a proper Fallout MMORPG, which could work like Ultima Online or EverQuest.

This is old but this are some other examples for a Fallout Mulitplayer or MMO:

Fallout Reloaded.
A fan project based on Fallout 1/2, mostly played by russian users and east europeans.
https://www.fonline-reloaded.net/

Also Interplays worked on Fallout Online before Bethesda won the court process, so they can create Fallout 76.
english wikipedia article about Fallout Online
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_Online

bad German mainstream magazine about the case.
https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/fallout-online-bethesda-erhaelt-die-rechte-interplay-stellt-arbeiten-ein,2563654.html

[Bored Peon]

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Warcraft was always a multiplayer game by LAN and modem.

So was Fallout Tactics, so I suppose that negates the whole argument that Fallout was traditionally a single-player game.

People like you should be banned for trying to twist other people comments and applying your idiotic interpretation of a post. It is rude, disrespectful, provoking an argument, flame baiting, and trolling.

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@Regulas

Escrito originalmente por Deklend:

So was Fallout Tactics, so I suppose that negates the whole argument that Fallout was traditionally a single-player game.

Agree with Deklend.
It is funny that this should be an argument against MMO, multiplayer, etc.

There was no @#$%ing argument until he made it up with his idiotic interpretation of what I said. That makes you just as bad as him for not even noticing he was twisting what I posted with his idiotic interpretation.

If either of you had even bothered to ask my actual opinion instead of making stupid assumptions then you would have heard me say that there was always an interest in Fallout being multiplayer. Morrowwind and Skyrim both had multiplayer mods created for them.

If I hurt either of your feelings, too @#$%ing bad. Neither one of you gave a @#$% when you forced a point of view on me from one sentence that did not even contain an opinion.

[Soylent_Boob]

yeah.. textchat mod is a must for me.
Without chat i wouldve stopped playing a long time ago.
Yes people are horrible but that is not the proper reason to get rid of textchat, thats throwing out the bad along with the good and usefull.
Without chat, those horrible people are still there on your server and since the lack of communication turns all other players in npc's, you will just make it easy for yourself and assume any player npc is horrible :P

[Bored Peon]

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Yes people are horrible but that is not the proper reason to get rid of textchat, thats throwing out the bad along with the good and usefull.

If you watched the 2019 E3 interview you would know that Bethesda was expecting people to use voice chat. People have been using voice chats by either an in game feature or a third party software since about the time Counter Strike first came out in the early 2000s. It failed because too many people ended up muting voice for various reasons.

Surprisingly the in game voice chat is just as stable as Discord, where most in game voice chats were always horrible to use.

[Soylent_Boob]

Escrito originalmente por Bored Peon:

Escrito originalmente por Soylent_Boob:

Yes people are horrible but that is not the proper reason to get rid of textchat, thats throwing out the bad along with the good and usefull.

If you watched the 2019 E3 interview you would know that Bethesda was expecting people to use voice chat. People have been using voice chats by either an in game feature or a third party software since about the time Counter Strike first came out in the early 2000s. It failed because too many people ended up muting voice for various reasons.

Surprisingly the in game voice chat is just as stable as Discord, where most in game voice chats were always horrible to use.

Oh i know horrible people wasnt beths reason to ditch textchat but it is what people here were using as motivation.
Voicechat only fails in games because listening to horrible people is even worse than reading them lol.
People getting into gaming through consoles and their headset online play may be used to it but for pc gamers voice simply was never the norm.
Also the reason thrown around alot is some local usa law requiring textchat in games to have a to-speech function or something? total bull!

Personally i just blame beth management for the lack of textchat, just another one of those crazy dumb decisions they made around fo76 like so so many.

Ah.. where does the time go.. going on 4 years of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about beths fo76 shennannigans, you were there, i remember you from forum XD

[Bored Peon]

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People getting into gaming through consoles and their headset online play may be used to it but for pc gamers voice simply was never the norm.

It is the normal for some people. A large amount of gamers use Discords and such to communicate. There has been dozens of voice program over the decades and it looks like the current one on top of the pile is Discord.

It was more of a failure because people because the people attracted to Fallout 76 were not from that same voice using demographic. They were mostly people who bought a MMO type game to play single player.

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Personally i just blame beth management for the lack of textchat, just another one of those crazy dumb decisions they made around fo76 like so so many.

Not really a dumb decision, more of a bold move that not everyone has accepted.

Another bold move was to making DLC free. People seemed to have accepted that, lol.

[Regulas]

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Escrito originalmente por Soylent_Boob:

Yes people are horrible but that is not the proper reason to get rid of textchat, thats throwing out the bad along with the good and usefull.

If you watched the 2019 E3 interview you would know that Bethesda was expecting people to use voice chat. People have been using voice chats by either an in game feature or a third party software since about the time Counter Strike first came out in the early 2000s. It failed because too many people ended up muting voice for various reasons.

Surprisingly the in game voice chat is just as stable as Discord, where most in game voice chats were always horrible to use.

Yeah well Bethesda can go suck an egg and take their voice chat push and shove it.

[BBoulder]

Escrito originalmente por sascomander:

The game is console focused and most games on console do not include text chat as the overwhelming majority of players do not have a chatpad (A mini keyboard that connects to your controller) or a regular keyboard attached to their console. There are console games that have text chat but most games don't bother to include it. Voice chat is largely the way console players communicate unless they are sending a private message but you can also send a voiced message as well.

PC is an afterthought with this game as its the smallest community of the three platforms its on.

FFXIV is a MMO, has text chat and is on console. Just hook up your keyboard to your console lol.

[jerrypocalypse]

Escrito originalmente por sascomander:

The game is console focused and most games on console do not include text chat as the overwhelming majority of players do not have a chatpad (A mini keyboard that connects to your controller) or a regular keyboard attached to their console. There are console games that have text chat but most games don't bother to include it. Voice chat is largely the way console players communicate unless they are sending a private message but you can also send a voiced message as well.

PC is an afterthought with this game as its the smallest community of the three platforms its on.

Text chat has been on both XBox and PS for as long as there have been online games on them, and the current versions of both, and the Switch, all have text chat built in. This has nothing to do with consoles, and you're doing nothing but perpetuating the idiocy that is the "PC vs console" debate.