So many bloodied builds....

[DigiAngel]

Man...sure seems like every time I start or join a team....all bloodied...almost all the time. Is this really the only viable build?

[Gpappysr]

nope I use bloodied build and tank power armour.

[Venom]

i just use heavy guns and heavy explode guns

[Zarrakath]

No it's not the only viable build. There is absolutely nothing wrong with full health builds. I run one and do just fine against almost everything in game. In the end it all comes down to having the right perk cards for dishing out damage.

[Angela]

It's the easy choice for power hungry gamers. So many perk and gear synergies vs bugger all for any other build.

It even gets a massively greater xp gain than any other build.

[wb3jma]

LOL, that's because they nerfed to hell all the builds that previously relied on perks being multiplicative when stacking rather than additive. Bloodied did not make the cut because it primarily relies on stacking buffs across SPECIAL rather than a particular attribute. So they went from having a system which people used all kinds of things across the attribute spectrum to one build to rule them all. Boring as all f@#$K.

[Chowmix]

Just equip sun kissed and share it with the team, that way you can heal their rads, poor guys must be hurting. I like to go the extra mile and kick one bloodied member when we hit the daily ops end guy, hes already badly injured and that fight would be too dangerous for him, gotta do your part to take care of the bloodieds!

[Vogel]

Originally posted by wb3jma:

LOL, that's because they nerfed to hell all the builds that previously relied on perks being multiplicative when stacking rather than additive. Bloodied did not make the cut because it primarily relies on stacking buffs across SPECIAL rather than a particular attribute. So they went from having a system which people used all kinds of things across the attribute spectrum to one build to rule them all. Boring as all f@#$K.

Exactly! One Wasteland was a terrible update!

[Arcanix]

Becomes a problem with OPs when bloodied builds die 10 times, then complain that they didnt get to run the OP under 4 minutes.

[EJR]

Several updates ago, it was the go-to meta build since it dealt the most damage overall. Nowadays, there are builds that are on par with it but Bloodied just remains popular especially with the boost to XP gain with Unyielding armor pieces.

I use a VATS Rifleman build and I actually am relatively on par with Bloodied builds, I remember having to join a friend doing ACP because they couldn't deal enough damage to Earle (At least half of the crowd were Bloodied builds), and after joining Earle's HP was finally starting to go down thanks to my crits. It's only when Legacy or God-tier weapons come into play when Blooded builds can achieve the "old days" numbers again.

[Hefutoxin]

Nope. People just min/max in an easy game. Anytime someone has a question, the answer they get is "Bloodied Build."

Originally posted by Vogel:

Originally posted by wb3jma:

LOL, that's because they nerfed to hell all the builds that previously relied on perks being multiplicative when stacking rather than additive. Bloodied did not make the cut because it primarily relies on stacking buffs across SPECIAL rather than a particular attribute. So they went from having a system which people used all kinds of things across the attribute spectrum to one build to rule them all. Boring as all f@#$K.

Exactly! One Wasteland was a terrible update!

This is exactly the opposite. Bloodied runs the most stackable boosts. When they were multiplicative, Bloodied were one shotting bosses. Other builds didn't get hit has hard because they ran less boosts.

[Vogel]

Originally posted by Hefutoxin:

Nope. People just min/max in an easy game. Anytime someone has a question, the answer they get is "Bloodied Build."

Originally posted by Vogel:

Exactly! One Wasteland was a terrible update!

This is exactly the opposite. Bloodied runs the most stackable boosts. When they were multiplicative, Bloodied were one shotting bosses. Other builds didn't get hit has hard because they ran less boosts.

The point is that they were still viable and bloodied builds were not the only answer

[doublejesus]

I will probably run bloodied for a while because a 5/5 set of unyielding just can't be beat when it comes to flat experience gains (30% xp gains iirc) and until you get your legendary perk cards all maxed out your primary concern should be gaining xp not necessarily damage.

Auto Axe and Chainsaw are very powerful right now and no amount of damage reductions on standard armor can compete with all the stacked % damage reductions on over eaters power armor and that's before emergency protocols.

So there is a place for full health builds but I would like to add I play a bloodied fist build and I do good damage and can easily solo a daily ops or expeditions, so commando isn't end all be all. Once you understand which perks are powerful and how to properly use perks, mutations, legendary effects, chems and foods to compliment a build almost anything is "viable".

[Kuriva]

I only do it because I can't stand being able to carry so little weight and much more now that I ran out of fallout first membership

[BizarreMan]

Originally posted by Chowmix:

Just equip sun kissed and share it with the team, that way you can heal their rads, poor guys must be hurting. I like to go the extra mile and kick one bloodied member when we hit the daily ops end guy, hes already badly injured and that fight would be too dangerous for him, gotta do your part to take care of the bloodieds!

I run Rad Sponge on occasion and it can screw up low health builds.

[wb3jma]

Originally posted by Vogel:

Originally posted by Hefutoxin:

Nope. People just min/max in an easy game. Anytime someone has a question, the answer they get is "Bloodied Build."



This is exactly the opposite. Bloodied runs the most stackable boosts. When they were multiplicative, Bloodied were one shotting bosses. Other builds didn't get hit has hard because they ran less boosts.

The point is that they were still viable and bloodied builds were not the only answer

EXACTLY!!!!