Wow. Fixer vs. Enclave Plasma Rifle

[Fried Noodles]

I'd been using my automatic Enclave Plasma rifle for quite a long time now... Had the mods and legendary effects just the way I liked it.

I recently came to own some very high quality Fixers ad decided to try them out in today's Daily Op.

While the Enclave Plasma has a lot of kick behind each shot, it is horribly inefficient in VATS (which I use a lot).

With the Fixer, I can burn my entire magazine (when using the AA variant -- probably not with Q) and still have tons of AP to spare.

It's actually kind of silly/stupid how much of a difference there is between the two weapons as far as AP cost is concerned.

I'd gotten so used to controlled, burst-firing playing with the Plasma rifle. Feels completely unnecessary with a Fixer.

[Phantom]

You can likely with the Q too

Look into getting the prime version it cuts ap cost by 50%

you can stack on the other ap reduction to get it down to like 1 or 2 ap per shot

on the plus side your enclave plasma will be getting 69-300% better with the patch on the 1st as it applies the correct formula for energy weapons on damage

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My main character is build for VATS. I can with all my fixers shoot over 6 mags and not even have used all my AP yet. Outside of SBQ, Earle and mini Earle there is not going to be any enemy still standing after 6 mag dumps. Think it can get down to 1 AP point to fire or something like that.

The mods you put on the gun will reduce AP cost to fire in VATS. Automatic reduces this by 50% and primed mod for ultracite ammo is 50% again. Fixer is pretty terrible and clumsy to use outside of VATS. In VATS and set up the right way it is a god tier gun.

Maybe the energy weapon damage fixes will restore some balance between these weapons in VATS, but i feel the fixer will still be ahead due to the tiny AP cost.

[Skarmo]

I see no fun in using VATS.

[Fried Noodles]

Originally posted by Skarmo:

I see no fun in using VATS.

I like it.
Lets me rely more on numbers than my clunky lobster claw hands for precise shooting in a frequently rubberbandy / high-latency online environment. ;)

Plenty of the game is built around VATS. Tons of perks and legendary effects to exploit to improve upon it.

[df1307]

try quad railway :)

[Phantom]

Originally posted by Skarmo:

I see no fun in using VATS.

Originally posted by df1307:

try quad railway :)

QE15r railway =

I am become death, destroyer of worlds

The thing is I can clear westtek in literally minutes all i gotta do is point and kill, kill, kill, kill, kill

[Fried Noodles]

Originally posted by df1307:

try quad railway :)

Can the Railway receive a Prime Automatic receiver?
I only have the plan for a semi-auto prime receiver.

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Originally posted by Fried Noodles:

Originally posted by df1307:

try quad railway :)

Can the Railway receive a Prime Automatic receiver?
I only have the plan for a semi-auto prime receiver.

No. Prime receiver is for semi auto only. I was trying to find primed auto recently too and found out it does not exist. :-(

[Ju87gstukas]

Plasma round is too slow, basically can't hit anything that moves.

[Fried Noodles]

Originally posted by Ju87gstukas:

Plasma round is too slow, basically can't hit anything that moves.

I never felt like I had a problem with that, especially when shooting with VATS.

[Fluffy Chops]

Originally posted by Skarmo:

I see no fun in using VATS.

Shame seems mostly the meta for this game i've seen many people in events just Vating away and also killing in 1 shot with a fixer so your kinda missing out, but hey its how you want to play.

[Ju87gstukas]

Originally posted by Fried Noodles:

Originally posted by Ju87gstukas:

Plasma round is too slow, basically can't hit anything that moves.

I never felt like I had a problem with that, especially when shooting with VATS.

Besides I prefer the plasma effect in fallout 3 rather than this happy flying green balloon lmao.

[Fried Noodles]

Originally posted by Ju87gstukas:

Besides I prefer the plasma effect in fallout 3 rather than this happy flying green balloon lmao.

It's been years since I last played FO3 or FONV. I honestly can't remember the difference. ;)

Though it is a bit different in VATS for sure. Enemies don't move away, usually, when you're using VATS in FO3. And often the shots are in slow-mo, so it seems like they're flying super fast?
Dunno!

But I don't mind the Plasma so much in FO76 at least.

[Phantom]

Waser Wifle...

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Originally posted by Phantom:

Waser Wifle...

He he, that takes me back to Biwwy and little lamplight all those years ago. 2008 to be exact.

Seriously hoping that the energy weapon fixes will make certain energy guns far more viable in the future. Laser rifles used to be amazing guns in previous games and in '76 they have always been extremely meh for me, even ones with great rolls. I have several with great rolls stashed away, so hoping i have done a good thing by holding onto them.