Some players are clueless!

[Pctechnik]

I just played a radiation rumble and had a player (lvl 100+) running around in PA, naturally he is getting mixed up with the glowers and everyone is trying to shoot the targets - not other players. But because I use an explosive .50cal, even if my shots get close to you, i'm not attacking you although you might take a small amount of damage.

Needless to say, I died twice to this player because he thought I was directly attacking him (but wasn't) - even when I saved his bloody *** from a glowing ghoul attacking him from the side.

Because of this (and other players becoming victims to his actions) all the scav's died... needless to say, all the players were quick to turn on him after failure of the event.

I do realize that he may have deliberately taken steps to be able to activate PvP in the event - just for the giggles of being a complete *** to everyone in the event.

And here I was thinking we were doing things right... waiting to the last minute to start the event - waiting for as many players as possible... popping 4 lunch boxes...

I dumped my junk in my scrap box before joining the event. Do I feel bad because this PvP'r/clueless player didn't or couldn't? do I feel bad for scooping up ALL his junk when the event failed and everyone turned on him?

I hope we all learnt something from this. I know I did.

[Lerch2000]

There is an option in-game settings to turn this off, if you do not want to turn pacifist mode on then stop shooting other people and claiming it's their fault.

I also saw that someone said the OP had over 3k hours, not sure where you got that info from M8, Although PcTechNik isn't exactly new, having under 300 hrs would at least (to me) put them in a young category for the game.

[Stelar Seven]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από EVILISH:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Stelar Seven:

That's rich.

There is exactly one formula in this game. How much hurt can you pour into the NPC in a given second.

Adding more damage to the gun is one of, about three, mods that do the job. Explosive, two shot, armor piercing. Preferably two of the three.

To make it better the upgrades are a lottery. So you get what you can, and you build arround it.

I've got explosive on two of my weapons, and armor piercing with it. Do you want me doing whifflebat damage in an op with you so you can avoid it? Am I being greedy when I help kill the various npc?

I've got pacifist on, all the time, so I won't be hurting you, but you think it's greed and not efficiency to have such weapons?

I do love the claim of mindless though, its an FPS, not a chess match. Tell me, how do you mindfully apply damage to the NPC, I'm eager to hear your big brain solution.

In RR you only need to hit anything once and there are enough players to make sure its dead and it will be so your line of thought is very very small and self based...I understand everyone wants to feel like I did this and i did that i get it but that is USELESS in this event...You will still get XP for NOT killing NPC in this even just by hitting them once with even the weakest weapon...You are not being EFFICIENT at all just being a HOG and smart people know this big brains like you say...Now big brains also know that it does not matter if you are not hurting players with your PVP off when the event ends you will be and you are so reckless and greedy as people with these weapons are at this event that you are now hitting players and im telling you they are angry at your spam fire greed they put up with the whole time and are now glad you hit them so they can enjoy you being on your back...Change your weapon or you will always face this player at some point and they are not wrong at all...Not big brained at all just common sense.

I'm not seeing any reason in your words just a lot of assumptions about my playstyle.

Perhaps you are fallout 1st and have lots of storage space for many weapons. Maybe you keep a special weapon for events and others for open world. I've got a few and the same gun I bring to the SBQ or Bots on Parade, is what I'm showing up to this event with.

Greed is shooting every noc once and expecting others to kill whatever for you. Me? Oh I'm grabbing the materials from the rad rooms to meet the actual goal, or having done that, in defending the scavengers so you or someone else can go down.

Where is the greed? I killed a npc efficiently?

I'm not seeing it, maybe make a case instead of lobbing blind assumptions at me. I'm not your strawman.

Also me, I'll be sticking to opps with friends. We get the job done in under 8min and work as a team.

[PotatoBasket]

Alright kids, today we're going to learn how to get along in a group. Thought they covered this back at the vault kiddy care but you know... no fault when all are victims of a poor education system.
First, we're going to start with the idea of basic math to lay down the foundation of existing with limited resources. Then we'll talk about sharing..
Then appreciate that you can dip on any server with too many dips or just stick to your team/solo to complete stuff. Then appreciate that it's a game, nothing to waste energy on; take or leave what you want so far as personal growth. The game is supposed to be fun; if it's not, I'm sorry but you're doing it wrong.

[Capnbludd]

Is that guy whining about tesla guns when he mentions arch weapons? I only own a tesla to use it in RR and I have to pop to my camp to change to a tesla setup and grab the gun before heading to RR. RR is all about tagging stuff and hardly anyone is killing all the mobs using a tesla, if anything teslas are the most exp sharing weapons there are.

I can always go back to blowing the legs off of every ghoul I see as well as tagging stuff with the splash damage but I wanted to avoid doing that after one-shotting lengendaries.

[Jack of Blades]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Capnbludd:

Is that guy whining about tesla guns when he mentions arch weapons? I only own a tesla to use it in RR and I have to pop to my camp to change to a tesla setup and grab the gun before heading to RR. RR is all about tagging stuff and hardly anyone is killing all the mobs using a tesla, if anything teslas are the most exp sharing weapons there are.

I can always go back to blowing the legs off of every ghoul I see as well as tagging stuff with the splash damage but I wanted to avoid doing that after one-shotting lengendaries.

I respect you for using tesla best weapon for RR so everyone has a chance to hit the legendary

[Senator Armstrong]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pctechnik:

I just played a radiation rumble and had a player (lvl 100+) running around in PA, naturally he is getting mixed up with the glowers and everyone is trying to shoot the targets - not other players. But because I use an explosive .50cal, even if my shots get close to you, i'm not attacking you although you might take a small amount of damage.

Needless to say, I died twice to this player because he thought I was directly attacking him (but wasn't) - even when I saved his bloody *** from a glowing ghoul attacking him from the side.

Because of this (and other players becoming victims to his actions) all the scav's died... needless to say, all the players were quick to turn on him after failure of the event.

I do realize that he may have deliberately taken steps to be able to activate PvP in the event - just for the giggles of being a complete *** to everyone in the event.

And here I was thinking we were doing things right... waiting to the last minute to start the event - waiting for as many players as possible... popping 4 lunch boxes...

I dumped my junk in my scrap box before joining the event. Do I feel bad because this PvP'r/clueless player didn't or couldn't? do I feel bad for scooping up ALL his junk when the event failed and everyone turned on him?

I hope we all learnt something from this. I know I did.

Pacifist Mode. Problem Solved.

[Silberdrachen]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pctechnik:

I just played a radiation rumble and had a player (lvl 100+) running around in PA, naturally he is getting mixed up with the glowers and everyone is trying to shoot the targets - not other players. But because I use an explosive .50cal, even if my shots get close to you, i'm not attacking you although you might take a small amount of damage.

Needless to say, I died twice to this player because he thought I was directly attacking him (but wasn't) - even when I saved his bloody *** from a glowing ghoul attacking him from the side.

Because of this (and other players becoming victims to his actions) all the scav's died... needless to say, all the players were quick to turn on him after failure of the event.

I do realize that he may have deliberately taken steps to be able to activate PvP in the event - just for the giggles of being a complete *** to everyone in the event.

And here I was thinking we were doing things right... waiting to the last minute to start the event - waiting for as many players as possible... popping 4 lunch boxes...

I dumped my junk in my scrap box before joining the event. Do I feel bad because this PvP'r/clueless player didn't or couldn't? do I feel bad for scooping up ALL his junk when the event failed and everyone turned on him?

I hope we all learnt something from this. I know I did.

Well if you lookup You tube there are some Guys (Influencers and Lets players praising there explo method while doing events im sure some of the people that have seen the vids think they are doing it correctly if nobody tells em where they are doing it wrong. Try clearing up such mistakes in a friendly manner not all read evey post in the forum. Im 141 and have not done the big events because my build sucked very long. im sure with all the bugs and problems the game had for a long time others did the same and now they tap into a new unknown kind of gameplay and voila they fail ..... They need help not Public Shaming folks.

[RMPyro]

Can't use friendly fire in events, unless you are too low level for it. With that means players will have white names above their head instead of yellow and the event is not active for you. So its like attacking any other players anywhere else on the map.

Turn on pacifist mode if you don't want to get attacked.

[Senator Armstrong]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από RMPyro:

Can't use friendly fire in events, unless you are too low level for it. With that means players will have white names above their head instead of yellow and the event is not active for you. So its like attacking any other players anywhere else on the map.

Turn on pacifist mode if you don't want to get attacked.

Unless it's a Worskhop. Those are PvP zones regardless. I learned that the hard way.

[Pctechnik]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TwinChops:

OP what level are you? because my god you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clueless aswell hahahaha, turn on pacifist mode if you dont want to do PvP, if you want PvP (wich it looks like) then dont come here to compülain after you died.

Lvl 320 - yes I am aware of Pacifist mode but USUALLY (and nobody seems to have mentioned this) it is not needed in what is supposed to be a cooperative event - I've never had issues of PvP in radiation rumble before, I know the player in question SPECIFICALLY took certain steps to enable PvP in his case. Steps that go beyond 2 players shooting each other.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από EVILISH:

Another Explosive aimless spammer got wrecked and thats the truth..
These and the Arch blasters getting mad...the way you shoot like HOGS at everything with no regard to other players means you have earned that beating just be real you know what you were doing...and yes there are players always just looking for it and its not going anywhere so how about AIM or take a min to use another weapon for the event and save yourself the trouble instead of posting misinformation.

Your views of my playstyle is entirely speculative. I had taken care as to not inflict massive amounts of damage on any player, its just how I am in an event or out in the open - I was there for the event after all. On one occasion I was even chased all the way through Charleston Capitol Building by a PvP'r constantly attacking me and because I was careful and never hit him, I never died. YES, I made 3 mistakes, 1) I assumed a co-op event would not allow PvP (I later found out that PvP CAN be triggered). 2) I assumed I had pacifist mode on, but after my first death - and the fact the scavengers were dying, I did not feel I had time to switch on pacifist mode in favour of trying to help win the event and finally, 3) I assumed that the decent thing in a co-op event if I "scratched your paint" was a warning shot.. not a "frag you" attitude.

Oh... and I use a vampire exploding 50cal. the only reason I died is because I stopped shooting. My killer knew I stopped shooting (we were facing each other the 2nd time) but, give an inch, they'll take a mile. If he looked to his right, he would've seen the ghoul I was shooting at.

As I said, I know I made mistakes but I know I didn't go out of my way to damage the guy, some people however, are unfamiliar with weatons law...

Yes, I came here and vented, yes, I made mistakes, but neither of those makes my killer to be in the right. I'm a reasonable person yet unreasonably, expect the same from others. This game is, after all, well known for its helpful player base - I myself have been chasing after level 1's and gifting them diluted stimpaks, bobby pins, armour & melee weapons, level 5's with fully modded 10mm's, level 15's with fully modded handmades and a hundred plus of rounds for each gun. Seeing those little dudes and dudesses emote their joy and catching up with them later at events and seeing them using their new toys makes me smile.

Are you telling me you've never done this, that being unfamilar with weatons law is the norm? even for FO76?

[Tamamo-no-Bae]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pctechnik:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TwinChops:

OP what level are you? because my god you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clueless aswell hahahaha, turn on pacifist mode if you dont want to do PvP, if you want PvP (wich it looks like) then dont come here to compülain after you died.

Lvl 320 - yes I am aware of Pacifist mode but USUALLY (and nobody seems to have mentioned this) it is not needed in what is supposed to be a cooperative event - I've never had issues of PvP in radiation rumble before, I know the player in question SPECIFICALLY took certain steps to enable PvP in his case. Steps that go beyond 2 players shooting each other.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από EVILISH:

Another Explosive aimless spammer got wrecked and thats the truth..
These and the Arch blasters getting mad...the way you shoot like HOGS at everything with no regard to other players means you have earned that beating just be real you know what you were doing...and yes there are players always just looking for it and its not going anywhere so how about AIM or take a min to use another weapon for the event and save yourself the trouble instead of posting misinformation.

Your views of my playstyle is entirely speculative. I had taken care as to not inflict massive amounts of damage on any player, its just how I am in an event or out in the open - I was there for the event after all. On one occasion I was even chased all the way through Charleston Capitol Building by a PvP'r constantly attacking me and because I was careful and never hit him, I never died. YES, I made 3 mistakes, 1) I assumed a co-op event would not allow PvP (I later found out that PvP CAN be triggered). 2) I assumed I had pacifist mode on, but after my first death - and the fact the scavengers were dying, I did not feel I had time to switch on pacifist mode in favour of trying to help win the event and finally, 3) I assumed that the decent thing in a co-op event if I "scratched your paint" was a warning shot.. not a "frag you" attitude.

Oh... and I use a vampire exploding 50cal. the only reason I died is because I stopped shooting. My killer knew I stopped shooting (we were facing each other the 2nd time) but, give an inch, they'll take a mile. If he looked to his right, he would've seen the ghoul I was shooting at.

As I said, I know I made mistakes but I know I didn't go out of my way to damage the guy, some people however, are unfamiliar with weatons law...

Yes, I came here and vented, yes, I made mistakes, but neither of those makes my killer to be in the right. I'm a reasonable person yet unreasonably, expect the same from others. This game is, after all, well known for its helpful player base - I myself have been chasing after level 1's and gifting them diluted stimpaks, bobby pins, armour & melee weapons, level 5's with fully modded 10mm's, level 15's with fully modded handmades and a hundred plus of rounds for each gun. Seeing those little dudes and dudesses emote their joy and catching up with them later at events and seeing them using their new toys makes me smile.

Are you telling me you've never done this, that being unfamilar with weatons law is the norm? even for FO76?

Accidents happen, if you don't want pvp keep Pacifist on until you get in a situation where you need to turn it off such as a pvp event or duel.

[Shryce]

Solution is simple... use a better gun.

[EVILE-VON-OVERKILLE]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pctechnik:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TwinChops:

OP what level are you? because my god you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clueless aswell hahahaha, turn on pacifist mode if you dont want to do PvP, if you want PvP (wich it looks like) then dont come here to compülain after you died.

Lvl 320 - yes I am aware of Pacifist mode but USUALLY (and nobody seems to have mentioned this) it is not needed in what is supposed to be a cooperative event - I've never had issues of PvP in radiation rumble before, I know the player in question SPECIFICALLY took certain steps to enable PvP in his case. Steps that go beyond 2 players shooting each other.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από EVILISH:

Another Explosive aimless spammer got wrecked and thats the truth..
These and the Arch blasters getting mad...the way you shoot like HOGS at everything with no regard to other players means you have earned that beating just be real you know what you were doing...and yes there are players always just looking for it and its not going anywhere so how about AIM or take a min to use another weapon for the event and save yourself the trouble instead of posting misinformation.

Your views of my playstyle is entirely speculative. I had taken care as to not inflict massive amounts of damage on any player, its just how I am in an event or out in the open - I was there for the event after all. On one occasion I was even chased all the way through Charleston Capitol Building by a PvP'r constantly attacking me and because I was careful and never hit him, I never died. YES, I made 3 mistakes, 1) I assumed a co-op event would not allow PvP (I later found out that PvP CAN be triggered). 2) I assumed I had pacifist mode on, but after my first death - and the fact the scavengers were dying, I did not feel I had time to switch on pacifist mode in favour of trying to help win the event and finally, 3) I assumed that the decent thing in a co-op event if I "scratched your paint" was a warning shot.. not a "frag you" attitude.

Oh... and I use a vampire exploding 50cal. the only reason I died is because I stopped shooting. My killer knew I stopped shooting (we were facing each other the 2nd time) but, give an inch, they'll take a mile. If he looked to his right, he would've seen the ghoul I was shooting at.

As I said, I know I made mistakes but I know I didn't go out of my way to damage the guy, some people however, are unfamiliar with weatons law...

Yes, I came here and vented, yes, I made mistakes, but neither of those makes my killer to be in the right. I'm a reasonable person yet unreasonably, expect the same from others. This game is, after all, well known for its helpful player base - I myself have been chasing after level 1's and gifting them diluted stimpaks, bobby pins, armour & melee weapons, level 5's with fully modded 10mm's, level 15's with fully modded handmades and a hundred plus of rounds for each gun. Seeing those little dudes and dudesses emote their joy and catching up with them later at events and seeing them using their new toys makes me smile.

Are you telling me you've never done this, that being unfamilar with weatons law is the norm? even for FO76?

Some player might go to RR looking for that PVP accident why? If you are one of those players running around picking up junk from everything you kill the whole duration they will love to be clipped just to take everything worthless or not...RR at the end timer is now a pvp potential zone and if you dont use caution at that timers end you will face being dead.

This is a reason for killing and also as I have said and you are right I should not say YOU as a player but i am aware of the player type SPAMMING like a hog and that is a trigger to someone trying to do it in a way that all players benefit which is reason two those Hog-Spamming with intent to kill all Mobs are dead.

[Pctechnik]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Shryce:

Solution is simple... use a better gun.

But she is my gun, and I love her. (bonus virtual cookie for naming the movie I am referring to)

And @EVILISH, No, I wait for the end of the event to collect junk.

[Phantom]

Events

PvP is disabled between people doing the event until the event is complete

Players who want to grief will simply go to their pipboy and cancel the event, now they are not a part of it and any pvp damage you do to them can be responded to in full as per normal rules

Its been a grief thing for a few months now