Lower Fallout 1st price

[Peacecraft]

to me it seems that F76 is unplayable without Fallout 1st due to the low storage capacity.
and therefor Fallout 1st is a must, which is way too expensive in my opinion, i'd say drop it to 4,99

[Jarcionek]

I would make unlimited storage of everything for free, just the way it was in all previous Fallouts ;)

[lucg]

Without "Fallout 1st", you always have to manage your stash box ... , and it's a big disadvantage. But, I enjoy the game without the membership ... , mean it take me alot of playing hours to manage it (stash box) correctly ... !

[Fjolde]

While I don't have an issue with managing my stash without 1st but if it were cheaper I'd probably be more willing to pick it up.

[Hefutoxin]

It takes me VERY little time to manage. I just... don't pick up all that garbage.

Whatever it is, you don't need it. If you want it at some point in the future, it'll be there or on some player vendor.

[df1307]

After releasing EA Play which costs 5 time lesser, Bethesda's price is insane

[Exhausted Dragon]

Originally posted by Jarcionek:

I would make unlimited storage of everything for free, just the way it was in all previous Fallouts ;)

Why stop there, just give everyone thousands of every kind of currency, all the perks and the bestest gear as well.

[Corthlan Soval]

oh interesting. so you believe the unlimited storage does give an obvious advantage then Exhausted Dragon? nice, thanks for making that post have even more credibility lol.

[BizarreMan]

I played for almost a year without a FO1st subscription so know it can be done. It just requires a little self control.

[Jarcionek]

Originally posted by BizarreMan:

I played for almost a year without a FO1st subscription so know it can be done. It just requires a little self control.

As I have pointed out in my Steam review, this is the only open-world game I have ever seen that forces me to throw out 90% of items I pick up. Yes, I am hoarder, I pick up everything and with my mind-set without Fallout 1st subscription this game is simply unplayable for me.

[hermetic77]

Originally posted by Exhausted Dragon:

Originally posted by Jarcionek:

I would make unlimited storage of everything for free, just the way it was in all previous Fallouts ;)

Why stop there, just give everyone thousands of every kind of currency, all the perks and the bestest gear as well.

And we can all get medals just for participating. YAY!!!

[Lord of Cinder]

One of things that always gets me is when people complain about prices. Indeed, F1 is a rip-off, no doubt in my mind about that and I like to complain, I do. Thing is, you can whine about game mechanics and communicate you want changes, but prices? Waste of time. This isn't charity.

Market is what dictates prices and clearly there are many people with deep pockets who have the desire to throw said money away. 13 bucks a month? 100 a year for such crap as F1? You can sub to a real MMO for those money and get real value back! You can buy several fully functional games as well if you save from monthly subs! Well, to each their own.

Until these players decide F1 is not worth it, nothing will change. If people start dropping off their subs, the prices should lower accordingly, but this clearly isn't the case here. In short - its pointless to complain.

[Ruin]

Funny how people who have played since launch managed with only half the storage, and no access to FO1st (as it wasn't a thing then)...

800lbs is plenty... Stop hoarding all the crap... If you aren't gonna use it, get rid of it...

[ogonbatto🎃゛]

' it seems ', but it's just an illussion ..
many have only done a 1month which offers many benefits to those newbe, btw
playing well without fo1st is possible but needs time and resource planning. On the other hand, if you like receiving atoms, buying cool stuff and receiving gifts from store, that's a great offer.

[Booglies]

There's definitely an adjustment period between 4 and 76. Yet, once you've got the balance worked out, I almost find it a bit more pleasant to play in that respect. If you aren't constantly over-encumbered in 4, you feel like you're missing out, and that can be just as terrible to manage. Whereas in 76, I'm somewhat encouraged to pass by loot I don't necessarily need.an be much more selective with what I pick up which makes little adventures a bit more immersive if I'm not having to constantly fast travel back to a settlement to offload junk.

I'd say the main disadvantage would come from mostly late game play, where players prefer to trade in items rather than the in-game currency. In this scenario, it doesn't matter how efficiently you play, it's not an advantage that you can really make up for. You're just physically incapable of storing the same quantity of these desired items as other players, and thus unable to effectively engage in some of the more desireable late game trades.

I think that even a physical and limited banking system would resolve a lot of those problems. Being able to have a secondary more long-term storage that you had to visit a specific physical location in order to access, and couldn't just be interacted with from the C.A.M.P. They could even disable PVP in the area and set up a secured trade system.

[~KeNnEtH~]

I agree that Fallout 1st or at least the Stash Box part should be cheaper or free.

I have gotten Fallout 1st for 2 months now and it is undeniable that there are gameplay advantages with it even though it is mostly just convenience.

I went from 800/800 to 50+/800 when I dumped all my junk into the Stash Box during my first Fallout 1st month.

This freed up so much space that I can store legendaries, ammo and things for sale much much easier.

Is it game breakingly advantageous? No. However, there is no way someone can pretend to say that the Stash Box offers no gameplay advantage.

Coupled with the Survival Tent, as long as you don't get hoarderish with weapons/armors, it is very hard to get overencumbered for long since all you got to do is drop the tent and throw all junk into Scrap Box anytime and anywhere (except interiors and places with big no build zones), making it much easier to teleport away from danger (enemies or nuke zones) or going anywhere without needing to search high and low for a public crafting bench, train station or player camp with crafting bench.

Of course, a non-Fallout 1st member can simply just be more selective with junk and pick up only what they need but it does mean that he/she can't simply pick up all junk even if there is no immediate need and then use it for something in the unforeseeable future like in events such as Fortifying Atlas.

This means a Fallout 1st member can play much less constantly than a non-Fallout 1st member due to massive junk stash picked up in the past as opposed to a "gotta go search and pick up when needed" kind of forced playstyle.

I think if they split the Stash Box part out of the Fallout 1st subscription and lower the price for the Stash Box or make it free, Fallout 1st subscription number is gonna drop hugely because there is gonna be little benefit to buying it unless you wanna buy at least 1,650 atoms for the month.