So if I die, what do I lose exactly?

[Fetito Fazzito]

So if I die, what do I lose exactly? Just the scrap items?

[Fr34k 0.o]

Автор сообщения: MagicHp

Автор сообщения: John the Fr34k (0.o)

Yeah, I'm sure. Let Me quote an article, which is similar, but not exactly 100% the same as My case.

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The bug has been reported on Fallout 76's subreddit. Players post that upon dying near an NPC, that non-playable character seizes their weapon and all ammunition associated with it and subsequently uses it in battle. These weapons can't be reclaimed at the moment, and Bethesda is currently investigating the issue.
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It did happen only once, that I know of. This time I really looked it over, cause it had happened before, that some pointless 1-star leggies kind of vanished to thin air from My inventory, but I didn't miss them and therefor didn't have a need to look into it.
But since this weapon was My main, i noticed it the moment i respawned and tried to kill some mobs on the way to My drop. I was like wth, wheres My weap.... I thought Maybe it broke or smth, but opening My bag, I didn't see it. Was quite a scare to Me, so I just dashed to My drop bag, only to find it was waiting for Me there. I was relieved to get it back, but again, scared, that it had happened at all... I was so shocked I didn't make a screenshot of it, but if it should ever happen again ( hopefully not tho!!! ) then I will be sure to document it for future cases.

You're talking about a very old bug that got fixed in less than a week... That's an edge-case that can't happen anymore, you can't lose weapons by dying, simple as that.

Any thoughts on the timeline? I didn't say it happened lately, but it did happen.

[Bored Peon]

Автор сообщения: John the Fr34k (0.o)

Any thoughts on the timeline? I didn't say it happened lately, but it did happen.

This one time in raider camp...

[Fr34k 0.o]

Автор сообщения: Bored Peon

Автор сообщения: John the Fr34k (0.o)

Any thoughts on the timeline? I didn't say it happened lately, but it did happen.

This one time in raider camp...

Very informative answer indeed....

[Brian9824]

Автор сообщения: John the Fr34k (0.o)

Автор сообщения: MagicHp

You're talking about a very old bug that got fixed in less than a week... That's an edge-case that can't happen anymore, you can't lose weapons by dying, simple as that.

Any thoughts on the timeline? I didn't say it happened lately, but it did happen.

It was fixed back in April, and only occurred during 1-2 specific events. So you saying that you can drop weapons is completely false

Автор сообщения: John the Fr34k (0.o)

Автор сообщения: BizarreMan

Survival hasn't existed for almost a year.

Only thing death costs is junk you haven't stashed.

False. I have lost some leg weapons... I don't know if it's a bug or not, but I literally discovered once a few weapons also in My loot bag :(
Next time it happens, will make a screenie

[Mooman]

Another thing you lose is radiation (gain health).

Important for low health (bloodied) builds as it can push them out of the nerd rage/adrenal reaction window and reduce damage output and SPECIAL (unyielding armour).

Many ways to redose rads but in the thick of battle can be awkward, just something to consider especially if you end up over encumbered due to strength loss.

[RMPyro]

You just drop your scrap and junk items when you die, the stuff will be in a paper bag at the last location you died at.

If you get killed in pvp, you also lose caps.

In survivor mode you also droped some aid items, but that mode was removed from the game like a year ago. That game mode got removed because almost no one played it, players only played it mostly for vault raids because it didn't lag so much on those servers.

[Fr34k 0.o]

Автор сообщения: RMPyro

You just drop your scrap and junk items when you die, the stuff will be in a paper bag at the last location you died at.

If you get killed in pvp, you also lose caps.

In survivor mode you also droped some aid items, but that mode was removed from the game like a year ago. That game mode got removed because almost no one played it, players only played it mostly for vault raids because it didn't lag so much on those servers.

Well, I understand what You mean, and also know that dying causes just junk to dissappear. But I have no reason to lie about such a thing geesh.. As said, hopefully it was just a one time thing :)

[Spectre]

Автор сообщения: Bored Peon

Автор сообщения: Fetito Fazzito

So if I die, what do I lose exactly? Just the scrap items?

1. During a public event (the bigger event markers) you do not drop anything.
Too many players were stealing at public events.
Keep in mind the moment the boss dies or the event ends then so does this drop protection.
It can be very dangerous hanging around after Scorched Earth.
There is players out there that will be watching for you to die and steal your fluxes.

The two ways to prevent this is to Call for Help or run to a Survival Tent and store the fluxes.

2. Outside of public events you drop EVERYTHING in your junk category.
This means do not go wandering around with like two hours worth of collected scrap or fluxes.

3. Falling into a fissure.
Your junk is gone and you will not get it back.

4. If anyone touches the junk in your drop bag you will lose the marker for it.

The good thing is that it is only scrap. Any lost scrap can easily be replaced. Dropped scrap is also a very cheap price for thieves to show their dishonesty.

You can also be like me. If I see someone die after Scorched Earth I will find their bag and then stand on it. That can block anyone else from looting it. When the owner gets back you move and allow them to loot.

Your first 1. is false. Was literally just in a public event and still dropped junk when I died. Bethesda promotes this douchebag activity so you feel like you have to pay for Fallout 1st in order to store junk to not be stolen from.

[Bored Peon]

Автор сообщения: Columbia

Автор сообщения: Bored Peon

1. During a public event (the bigger event markers) you do not drop anything.

Your first 1. is false. Was literally just in a public event and still dropped junk when I died. Bethesda promotes this douchebag activity so you feel like you have to pay for Fallout 1st in order to store junk to not be stolen from.

You do not drop anything DURING a public event.
If you die just after the event ends then you did not die DURING the event.
It has been this way for well over a year.

[Fr34k 0.o]

Автор сообщения: Bored Peon

Автор сообщения: Columbia

Your first 1. is false. Was literally just in a public event and still dropped junk when I died. Bethesda promotes this douchebag activity so you feel like you have to pay for Fallout 1st in order to store junk to not be stolen from.

You do not drop anything DURING a public event.
If you die just after the event ends then you did not die DURING the event.
It has been this way for well over a year.

In general, I find that it's pointless to shed blood over the small things. We all know that 76 is a bug infested wasteland. We love the game nevertheless. It takes a real hero to overlook the ridiculous and at times frustrating bugs / glitches, but it is worth it :)
I tried to play FO4 after being so accustomed to FO76 - I quit after 10 min, cause it was no longer as fun as FO76 is.
So what I'm trying to say is, that You're probably both right. Considering the facts, that things happen what aren't supposed to, it could be possible that a glitch of sorts happened. But in general it should be as said, that DURING event things should remain.

[Bored Peon]

Автор сообщения: John the Fr34k (0.o)

But in general it should be as said, that DURING event things should remain.

Well most people are complaining about dying AFTER the event ends. Liek at the end of Encryptid or Scorched Earth where there is a bunch of mobs that rush in sometimes. In their mind they are still at the event, but do not realize code wise the event is over and so is the drop protection.

The other thing that could happen is user error. If there is an event and you aare in a group and you fast travel to a group member instead of joining the event to travel then the game does not always place you into the event.

As for both being right, code does not work that way in this case, it is n on/off thing.

[Fr34k 0.o]

Автор сообщения: Bored Peon

Автор сообщения: John the Fr34k (0.o)

But in general it should be as said, that DURING event things should remain.

Well most people are complaining about dying AFTER the event ends. Liek at the end of Encryptid or Scorched Earth where there is a bunch of mobs that rush in sometimes. In their mind they are still at the event, but do not realize code wise the event is over and so is the drop protection.

The other thing that could happen is user error. If there is an event and you aare in a group and you fast travel to a group member instead of joining the event to travel then the game does not always place you into the event.

As for both being right, code does not work that way in this case, it is n on/off thing.

That sounds more like a serious hardcore case of stupidity tbh :D

I like the way You treat it just code wise, BUT... :D
I've seen some crazy zhit happen with that code, in this game :')

[Bored Peon]

Автор сообщения: John the Fr34k (0.o)

Автор сообщения: Bored Peon

Well most people are complaining about dying AFTER the event ends. Liek at the end of Encryptid or Scorched Earth where there is a bunch of mobs that rush in sometimes. In their mind they are still at the event, but do not realize code wise the event is over and so is the drop protection.

The other thing that could happen is user error. If there is an event and you aare in a group and you fast travel to a group member instead of joining the event to travel then the game does not always place you into the event.

As for both being right, code does not work that way in this case, it is n on/off thing.

That sounds more like a serious hardcore case of stupidity tbh :D

I like the way You treat it just code wise, BUT... :D
I've seen some crazy zhit happen with that code, in this game :')

There is very few events you can even die at...ranked in order...
1. Encryptid (at least 1-10 times)
2. Scorched Earth
3. Project Paradise
4. Radiation Rumble
Past that it takes something out of the ordinary or something stupid to die.

If such a bug still existed people would complain about it and there would be multiple topics on it. So most likely what really happened is:
1. They died aftr the event ended (have to remember the script delay for the pop up and quest log can be up to 10-15 secodns easily.)
2. They were at a minor event like Riding Shotgun, AWOL Armaments, etc which does not have the no drop rule.
3. They were at the event but did not actually join the event, which is usually caused by fast traveling to a friend or group member already there.

[ogonbatto🎃゛]

True, there is drop protection during the public event, no doubt.
For some reason, recently, before the boss was killed during the Encryptid event, I died, drop my bag and the guys picked it up after end event( I saw the bag and mark during the event). If that happens again i will ask to investigate.

[smallce]

Автор сообщения: Bored Peon

3. Falling into a fissure.
Your junk is gone and you will not get it back.

Just want to point it out -

Falling into a fissure site outside of public event and die will cause your junk drop, but not disappear. (at least it will stay at where you dying for a good while) You can actually spot your loot bag near the bottom of a fissure site (but probably not reachable from safe area)

So yeah, technically you COULD retrieve your junks from a fissure site, just much more difficulty than normal condition (even worse if you happen to die inside of nuke zoom, such as prime fissure site, after SBQ's death). I've made it twice.


Here's the tip to retrieve junk from the fissure site:

1. Carry a Power Armor Frame with Fusion Core pre-installed (doesn't matter if you have other PA part installed or not)
   
2. Place the PA frame close to your loot bag
   
3. Jump to the PA frame and ENTER it before your landing
   
4. DO NOT MOVE even a tiny bit (or you'll die again)
   
5. Loot all your junk
   
6. Fast travel away if you are not over encumbered.
   
7. Otherwise, just leave server and rejoin - you'll be placed on a safer place (not in a fissure site)