COOL A NEW BATTLEPASS = no new content, less rewards.

[Chaython]

COOL A NEW BATTLEPASS = no new content, less rewards.

[Evilgenius]

引用自 Diromonte：

Except it isn't a battle pass. You don't pay a dime. Battle Passes typically cost money. This is literally, again, just a rework of advancements and rewards. Again, read the patch notes at the VERY least before taking things out of context.

A Battle pass system has little to do with you buying upfront for it. This is clearly a battlepass system. It has all the characteristics. And you already paid for it, because it takes away one of your abilities to grind for atoms (aka money)

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck. It is a duck.

[Diromonte]

Whatever generates your mass effect field.

[Amanandhisdog]

引用自 Shocks #VR Club：

引用自 Mike "DieCast" James：

The mechanics of SEASONS work exactly like the various Battle Pass reward systems of other games - it;s seasonal, it gives rewards based on leveling up your seasonal pass.

The only difference is the FO76 SEASONS pass is FREE. So why not just call it a FREE Battle Pass system.

I will continue to refer SEASONS as the FREE Battle Pass reward system.

go on and every one else will call it the summer season.

as it resembles a battlepass system like a motorcycle resembles a boat.

[Evilgenius]

引用自 Mike "DieCast" James：

go on and every one else will call it the summer season.

as it resembles a battlepass system like a motorcycle resembles a boat.

Didn't know boats had 2 wheels, because i have yet to see anyone refer to it by anything else then a season pass/battle pass

[Chaython]

引用自 Exhausted Dragon：

"less rewards" equals... lets see.

https://fallout.bethesda.net/en/seasons

C.A.M.P items:
11 buildable items (including 1 functional item with no analogs (so far)
2 wallpapers

Skins and profile decorations:
33 paint jobs/skins
3 icons
2 photo frames
2 poses

Consumables:
39 lunchboxes (+25% EXP + minor bonuses, stackable)
3 packs of scrap (little, average and big)
24 scrap kits
24 basic repair kits
13 perk card packs

Ingame currency:
250 bullions
600 legendary scrip
6000 caps
1500 atoms

Additional stuff:
20 fireworks



Seems like less flexible, but "less rewards"? Someone's trying to lie here.

WHo needs XP? Before you could earn 300 atoms a day? I earn 4k caps per day, 50 script per day, haven't really gotten into bullion, no use for it, stash is full. WTF cares about icons and photo frames? Most of the skins are trash. Who cares about CAMP, most build a generic house, that looks decent, then you keep trying to join matches and it keeps telling you there's a CAMP in your spot and you have to delete it to play. To call skins "new content" is BS. I obviously meant something to do. Now it seems line in the sand is bugged and all of the ghouls with guns pop in directly on the transmitter, instead of out of view. The new challenge system is annoying and they will force you to do every challenge every day or pay to catch up. Like most battle passes. So the old way was more rewarding and you could play your way.

[Dex]

lol, yea, it's straight up a battlepass system. This is like when they tried to say "They're not paid mods, they're mini-dlc" lol

[Brian9824]

引用自 Chaython：

Now it seems line in the sand is bugged and all of the ghouls with guns pop in directly on the transmitter, instead of out of view.

Not bugged, if someone places tent near it then it blocks their spawn and that results

[Evilgenius]

引用自 brian9824：

引用自 Chaython：

Now it seems line in the sand is bugged and all of the ghouls with guns pop in directly on the transmitter, instead of out of view.

Not bugged, if someone places tent near it then it blocks their spawn and that results

So just badly executed then, that is hardly any better

[Burger]

I don't understand how/why people can be ok with this system replacing daily atom challenges completely. And then have the nerve to say "oh well you get 1500 atoms through this so it's fair". Before, you just had to do some boring task and pop, here's your atoms. Now they're telling me I have to grind SCORE xp for MANY levels doing the same boring tasks to get them. How the actual DUCK is anyone fine with that?

"There's so many rewards though" so the hell what? There's so many items at a 7-11 too, but I want to go in, buy a slim jim and walk out. This would be like me walking into the store, the owner saying "oh hey I know you want a slim jim, but I'll give you other random stuff instead until you stay in the store for 2 weeks"

I liked this game and got my moneys worth but in the couple months I've played it, it's not hard to see Bethesda cares more about making more money than actually making interesting content for it. Which is fine, I just don't get how people can pretend it's a nice change though.

[Burger]

Ghille suite wood armor skin... pfft kiss my ass

[Witski]

引用自 evilgenius：

引用自 Diromonte：

Except it isn't a battle pass. You don't pay a dime. Battle Passes typically cost money. This is literally, again, just a rework of advancements and rewards. Again, read the patch notes at the VERY least before taking things out of context.

A Battle pass system has little to do with you buying upfront for it. This is clearly a battlepass system. It has all the characteristics. And you already paid for it, because it takes away one of your abilities to grind for atoms (aka money)

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck. It is a duck.

could be a goose... it's not a duck.

Also this

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/3e/72/a5/3e72a589d2806c8f70aabed33852a00f.jpg

[Papa Shekels]

Not like we would have gotten new content anyway. Wastelanders was supposed to launch last year and it came two months ago. If they are this behind and they still put out buggy broken mess content, it would be silly to expect the next few patches to bring anything worthwhile.

Still, this is an overall better system. 1500 atoms, various currency/resource/exp boosts, and a mix of all kinds of atom shop items for progressing through tiers. If you grinded out every possible challenge, you got maybe 400-500 atoms per week. After the 1500 you get from ranking up, it leaves you at a maximum "deficit" of 3500 atoms for the whole season, although realistically it would be closer to 3000 when you factor in the challenges you wouldn't bother doing. Two power armor paints that you'd bother using already make up for that and you break even. 5-6 decent weapon skins already make up for that and you break even. A handful of camp items and you break even. Take any combination of those items and you would be hard pressed to say that none of it is worth what you would have otherwise gotten from the atom shop. I only buy PA paints and weapon skins, so once I reach like rank 50 I'll already be ahead of where I would have been in the old system.

Another thing people seem to be conveniently ignoring is that they added a bunch of new lifetime challenges. Many are simple things like killing 76 insects or cryptids, and most give 40-80 atoms each so you can get back hundreds or maybe even over a thousand off those alone

[Evilgenius]

引用自 Moist mouth sounds：

I liked this game and got my moneys worth but in the couple months I've played it, it's not hard to see Bethesda cares more about making more money than actually making interesting content for it. Which is fine, I just don't get how people can pretend it's a nice change though.

Some people just like paying a company more money and not get anything im return. They call them whales for a reason. And eventually these whales will destroy any game.

[vomder]

It's quite clear this was nothing more than a way to try and force players to buy atoms.

[Chaython]

引用自 Papa Shekels：

Still, this is an overall better system. 1500 atoms, various currency/resource/exp boosts, and a mix of all kinds of atom shop items for progressing through tiers. If you grinded out every possible challenge, you got maybe 400-500 atoms per week. After the 1500 you get from ranking up, it leaves you at a maximum "deficit" of 3500 atoms

As I said it was like atoms/day in previous challenge system was better. As for skins, other games do much better skins and they're free. {Apex Legends] and next BP will cost money...