Junk Weight Bug

[GunInSpace]

So in theory the stash is size 800. Was wondering why it caps out when trying to be careful.
Actually put all the weights into a spreadsheet to find out what might be going on.
The weight added up to 602 (theory) but actual number was 792.

Started to pull the inventory out of stash. Everything in junk was stored at 2x weight.

Junk weight was reportedly 191 but actual 382.


(sidebar: glowing mass = 0.2 is actually 2.00)


Bethesda bug reporting a pain ... so posting it here

[SydneyAngel]

Just get first 1 and your problem is solved

[Dudeus]

Too many variables you have not posted so not touching this.

[Klakson]

Maybe you've had perks/items that reduces weight of junk on you? Remember about those too.

[Myth]

You probably have perk cards that reduce the weight of carried items by 90%. Glowing Mass is considered a food item so the Grocer perk as a card or a backpack mod will cause you to see the weight as 0.2 whether in your backpack or in the stash. Perk cards do not apply to the stash so Glowing Mass weighs 2 in the stash.

Multiply that by several other perks for ammo, meds, weapons, etc. and attempting to make an exact weight tally as you did is an impossible task - because the stash is displaying your carry weight rather than the item's actual weight in the stash.

Just more Bethesda lazy and incomplete programming - not an actual incorrect weight calculation. (Unequipping all of your weight reduction perk cards and possibly your backpack if you have a moded one "should" show you the true weights of everything.)

[GunInSpace]

ok, lazy programming.

[Vyvyvn]

Originally posted by GunInSpace:

ok, lazy programming.

No, Problem clearly lies between chair and keyboard on this one.

[susume6]

good ole PEBKAC

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by GunInSpace:

(sidebar: glowing mass = 0.2 is actually 2.00)

If you are going to measure weights then try doing it WITHOUT your weight reduction perks equipped.
Glowing Mass is normally 2 lbs each.

Originally posted by GunInSpace:

ok, lazy programming.

I would expect a comment like that form someone who can not figure out they measured weights while having weight reduction perks equipped. Instead of taking responsibility for your mistake you blame the programmers.

I guess your programming idea would be not to show the reduced weight at all?

[Myth]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

I guess your programming idea would be not to show the reduced weight at all?

You guys can white knight for Bethesda all you want but it doesn't change the FACT that when looking at items in the stash box the weight is displayed incorrectly.

The weight shown in the stash box should be the full weight since that is the value being used against the weight limit in the stash box. It would be useful in the player inventory to see the full weight and reduced weight in parentheses or simply a dash or hyphen symbol for items not reduced in weight.

[Dudeus]

Originally posted by Myth:

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

I guess your programming idea would be not to show the reduced weight at all?

You guys can white knight for Bethesda all you want but it doesn't change the FACT that when looking at items in the stash box the weight is displayed incorrectly.

The weight shown in the stash box should be the full weight since that is the value being used against the weight limit in the stash box. It would be useful in the player inventory to see the full weight and reduced weight in parentheses or simply a dash or hyphen symbol for items not reduced in weight.

More important stuff to fix then to cater to your lame math skills. Everything applied adds to time and resource usage but hey, you have no idea how programming works means you are right. Can't teach something some one does not want to learn. Just jump on a youtube and let them tell you how you should think, seems to work for many.

This is a minor flaw and no where near the top of the list to be addressed but again every company has unlimited resources to throw at what ever because why not. Donate your free time to help them fix these things or better yet complain on a third party launcher to make them learn. sigh

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Myth:

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

I guess your programming idea would be not to show the reduced weight at all?

You guys can white knight for Bethesda all you want but it doesn't change the FACT that when looking at items in the stash box the weight is displayed incorrectly.

I aint white knighting for Bethesda. I am simply pointing out that if you are going to go through the trouble of removing everything from your stash to check weights then it makes sense to remove the weight reduction perks and weight reduction armor.

So how about you white knight for the op and come up with a valid excuse of why after removing everything from the stash that the op did not notice the weight reduction perks were in effect?

Originally posted by Dudeus:

Just jump on a youtube and let them tell you how you should think, seems to work for many.

Better yet go post in a third party forum on how it is bugged, lol.

By the way there is nothing bugged about anything. the proper weights are used for both your character and the stash. It is a bad user interface that obviously confuses people.

[Cutlass Jack]

Weight reduction perks only work for items carried. Looking at items in a container display the weight you will take on if you choose to carry it. Which is helpful info for 99% of the containers you loot in game. Your stash is a container that uses the same interface.

Yeah its slightly inconvenient when trying to micromanage your stash. But I don't really expect them to program different display options just for one box. It would be nice, but honestly after all the issues they were having just with display/vendor containers Its probably best not to add another variable to the mix. :P

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:

Yeah its slightly inconvenient when trying to micromanage your stash.

Well some people have said your stash should share the same perks as you for weight reduction.

However...I forsee people actually being dumb enough to use the weight reduction perks to put things into the stash and then remove the perk causing the stash to go over that limit. Maybe even someone else was sharing the perk and then it screws your stash weight when they leave the group.

My advice is learn to use the sort by weight feature.