I think its a shame Black market sales exist

[SydneyAngel]

There is nothing illegal about it because no one can tell another person they cant spend there money. I think once you involve money between players this involve a whole new element to this situation. This is truly pay to win but im glad besthda doesnt support this but they could do something like maybe have slightly larger % drop rate to get rid of this black market pay to win. There i said it thats my opinion

[Barry]

Yea definetly, would be fun seing everyone running b2525

That's sarcasm if you couldn't tell

[mgDuckyyy^.-]

Originally posted by sydneyblue:

There is nothing illegal about it because no one can tell another person they cant spend there money. I think once you involve money between players this involve a whole new element to this situation. This is truly pay to win but im glad besthda doesnt support this but they could do something like maybe have slightly larger % drop rate to get rid of this black market pay to win. There i said it thats my opinion

How is it pay to win when there is little or no PvP?.

[Barry]

Originally posted by Adeptus Astartes:

Originally posted by sydneyblue:

There is nothing illegal about it because no one can tell another person they cant spend there money. I think once you involve money between players this involve a whole new element to this situation. This is truly pay to win but im glad besthda doesnt support this but they could do something like maybe have slightly larger % drop rate to get rid of this black market pay to win. There i said it thats my opinion

How is it pay to win when there is little or no PvP?.

I think he is just mad that he hasn't gotten any good drops and wants "higher drop rate"
How much you wanna bet if this guy got a b2525 tomorrow he would say "lower the chance" to increase it's value lol

 Imagine salt 

[SydneyAngel]

Originally posted by Adeptus Astartes:

Originally posted by sydneyblue:

There is nothing illegal about it because no one can tell another person they cant spend there money. I think once you involve money between players this involve a whole new element to this situation. This is truly pay to win but im glad besthda doesnt support this but they could do something like maybe have slightly larger % drop rate to get rid of this black market pay to win. There i said it thats my opinion

How is it pay to win when there is little or no PvP?.

People can go on Ebay and buy weapons that will never drop in the game and also all the good weapons just whip out you wallet and buy them now rather then grinding

[SydneyAngel]

Originally posted by ™IⒶamᴴᴰkiller℡:

Originally posted by Adeptus Astartes:

How is it pay to win when there is little or no PvP?.

I think he is just mad that he hasn't gotten any good drops and wants "higher drop rate"
How much you wanna bet if this guy got a b2525 tomorrow he would say "lower the chance" to increase it's value lol

 Imagine salt 

Im happy with my weapons and found selling for caps on only 1 character very lucrative. I didnt mean changeing the drop rate to anything high but a slight increase will alot players to get a drop from grinding rather then just paying with real money whihc should be frowned upon

[Mooman]

The sad part is the black market exists because people are willing to pay the price, no demand no reason to supply.

FOMO and short cuts fuel the demand. Scavengers can only feed if something else makes the kill.

Change the attitudes of buyers and the problem solves itself.

[SydneyAngel]

Originally posted by Mooman:

The sad part is the black market exists because people are willing to pay the price, no demand no reason to supply.

FOMO and short cuts fuel the demand. Scavengers can only feed if something else makes the kill.

Change the attitudes of buyers and the problem solves itself.

I agree thats why its a shame people are like this but in this type of world were people need to have it now i doubt it will change but at least giving a opinion is still legal

[Hobo Misanthropus]

My only real issue with RMT isn't the actual RMT process (Don't get me wrong, I'll make fun of you if you're so bitchmade you had to buy power with real money) except in how it just gives incentives to cheating. Like a lot of RMT (because RMT is real money obviously) devolves into hacking, botting, duping, etc. If RMT was only by legit means (particularly noteworthy in character inventory purging) It'd be fine.

[SydneyAngel]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

My only real issue with RMT isn't the actual RMT process (Don't get me wrong, I'll make fun of you if you're so bitchmade you had to buy power with real money) except in how it just gives incentives to cheating. Like a lot of RMT (because RMT is real money obviously) devolves into hacking, botting, duping, etc. If RMT was only by legit means (particularly noteworthy in character inventory purging) It'd be fine.

I mean for people who are lazy and dont want to grind its perfect. There has to be a feeling they didnt really earn it by legit means so. I have onlyp layed the game the way its meant to and was having a blast with the player vendors

[Katz]

the lack of Focus on PvP Content, and the lack of interest in it by the Community makes out-of-game deals a non-issue.

Bethesda's best idea was to make PvP agressively optional... cause that already solved future problems like this.

[hermetic77]

If you want more drops i'm selling US Requisition drops. Try your luck with them.

[Bored Peon]

Game developers should have been smart enough to follow Sony (1st) and Blizzard (2nd) examples and just sell currency in game. That usually kills the majority of the black market currency sales and botting real quick. Also far easier and more profitable for the company than trying to spend the time to chase the people making RMTs down.

I was always against buying currency and such with RMTs. Then I had a guildmate point out that he works 60-70 hours a week and wanted to raid in WoW. Which basically meant he did not have the spare time to go farm gold for repairs and such. Having been in his place with the long work hours I could see his point.

Bethesda also made the duping and RMT more lucrative when they did not remove or edit legacy weapons. Which I can understand the whole public relations nightmare behind a decision to do so. I mean they took away the the legendary mask and people pitched a huge fit over an item they had for a few weeks.

However like others have said, the problem exists because the buyers exist.

[SydneyAngel]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Game developers should have been smart enough to follow Sony (1st) and Blizzard (2nd) examples and just sell currency in game. That usually kills the majority of the black market currency sales and botting real quick. Also far easier and more profitable for the company than trying to spend the time to chase the people making RMTs down.

I was always against buying currency and such with RMTs. Then I had a guildmate point out that he works 60-70 hours a week and wanted to raid in WoW. Which basically meant he did not have the spare time to go farm gold for repairs and such. Having been in his place with the long work hours I could see his point.

Bethesda also made the duping and RMT more lucrative when they did not remove or edit legacy weapons. Which I can understand the whole public relations nightmare behind a decision to do so. I mean they took away the the legendary mask and people pitched a huge fit over an item they had for a few weeks.

However like others have said, the problem exists because the buyers exist.

That is the stupidest idea i ever heard

[Monk]

The thing with the grind argument is, RNG, you could play this game for 10000 hours and never get a god gun, or, you could play it for 10 and get one, I've been lucky and got one, but, I cannot blame people who would rather pay a tenner to enjoy the game than rely on RNG.

If you could actually grind to earn weapons, that would be different, but, you cannot, so the argument of people wanting to skip a grind isn't really correct, as there isn't a grind to work through.

[SydneyAngel]

Originally posted by Monk:

The thing with the grind argument is, RNG, you could play this game for 10000 hours and never get a god gun, or, you could play it for 10 and get one, I've been lucky and got one, but, I cannot blame people who would rather pay a tenner to enjoy the game than rely on RNG.

If you could actually grind to earn weapons, that would be different, but, you cannot, so the argument of people wanting to skip a grind isn't really correct, as there isn't a grind to work through.

Thats impossbile 100000 and no good gun you get final word for completing the Becket quest and thats a great gun