16 X the details in Fallout 76 ! ! ! !

[Snow]

Guys, you all think they did achieve the 16X the details after all this years and patches?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZc1I6uJ70w

[Ruin]

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Reusing existing game assets is nothing new... Why create an entire new asset when an exisiting asset will be just as good?

It's funny how I never hear this completely inane complaint about XCom 2 - or even Terror From the Deep, the original XCom sequel, for that matter - which reused copious amounts of assets from XCom : Enemy Unknown, and was literally nothing more than a slightly refined version of it's predecessor...

What you describe here is simply prudent resource management and usage, and something that all developers do...

Yeah It's funny how people with no clue on game or software design think this is unusual.

Heck they re-use large chunks of code too. It would be a collossal waste of resources and stupidity to not do so. I mean why re-invent the wheel every time when you have perfectly good components you can use with little to no modifications.

I mean heck, its why every game engine has resource packs with pre-made assets and sounds being sold.

Yep... Pretty much...

FO76 went from FO4's dead and brown, to verdant and green, that's some amazing asset recycling there...

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Echo chamber of shills. WTH

*facepalm*

Well, if that really doesn't say all that needs to be said...

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16X implies 1600% increase in detail. Impossible. Not even Cyberpunk 2077 will be able to do that.

Maybe the game has .5% extra detail. Aka 50% extra detail.

... this is just the icing on the cake...

It was NEVER about graphics detail, and anyone who assumes this was a raging moron because it would cut out all but the absolute top-end of PC gamers...

[Kashra Fall]

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Actually depending on what's said it can also refer to the level of draw detail. Aka how far the game draws terrain and objects and in this case its a far longer view then Fallout 4. I can see a nuke go off from the otherside of the map for instance.

Todd Howard was talking about the draw distance in the interview, but everyone always edits it to cut out those parts because then they can't make up their own interpretation of what it means

The draw distance is maybe .8% improvement. AKA 80% compared to the max draw distance for Fallout 4.

I quite literally showwed you pictures of what max graphics are on FO76. When you compare it to max graphics of FO4 (Which he said the game was 16x the detail of.) it's literally no comparison. FO76 looks better, better lighting, more view distance and more rendering distance. I don't see what is so complicated to understand about this. Texture is not the only kind of detail.

[Brian9824]

If you also listen he talks about the combination of lighting ,draw distance, and a few other factors. The lighting for the game is pretty nice especially when your in certain areas .

[mimizukari]

ruin, kiddo. 1600% is 16x.

nothing personnel, kid... I'm on the defense side but he didn't say 1600x.

[Ruin]

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ruin, kiddo. 1600% is 16x.

nothing personnel, kid... I'm on the defense side but he didn't say 1600x.

Hmmm... Yeah, you're right... Still working on my first coffee for the day... Fixed it...

Though, how does one mistake render me a "kid"?

[Brian9824]

FYI here is his actual quote

Todd Howard: “All new rendering, lighting and landscape technology, it allows us to have sixteen times the detail, and even view distant weather systems across the map.”

Not 16x detail, 16x draw distance, etc. It's a combination of multiple things. People keep dropping parts of his quote and only mentioning the 16x detail without all the clarifiers.

[Ruin]

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FYI here is his actual quote

Todd Howard: “All new rendering, lighting and landscape technology, it allows us to have sixteen times the detail, and even view distant weather systems across the map.”

Not 16x detail, 16x draw distance, etc. It's a combination of multiple things. People keep dropping parts of his quote and only mentioning the 16x detail without all the clarifiers.

Because it's an easy strawman to build, that better fits their narrative...

[mimizukari]

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FYI here is his actual quote

Todd Howard: “All new rendering, lighting and landscape technology, it allows us to have sixteen times the detail, and even view distant weather systems across the map.”

Not 16x detail, 16x draw distance, etc. It's a combination of multiple things. People keep dropping parts of his quote and only mentioning the 16x detail without all the clarifiers.

exactly. 16x total detail across everything you factor in, you realize it's a 100% truth. Haters always gonna hate no matter what you tell em.

[Sparhawk122]

Fallout 4

Max settings for object detail:

Grass fade = 7,000
Actor fade = 15,000
Item fade = 10,000
Object fade = 30,000

What's the max settings in Fallout 76. Let's compare the 'improvements' to these draw distances...

[Bored Peon]

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What's the max settings in Fallout 76. Let's compare the 'improvements' to these draw distances...

Are you STILL having problems understanding the detail is OUTSIDE the draw distance?

[Miro Fox]

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What's the max settings in Fallout 76. Let's compare the 'improvements' to these draw distances...

Are you STILL having problems understanding the detail is OUTSIDE the draw distance?

people like going to non issues to fill their agenda.

also known as Trolls.

[Sparhawk122]

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Are you STILL having problems understanding the detail is OUTSIDE the draw distance?

people like going to non issues to fill their agenda.

also known as Trolls.

The American definition of troll just means anyone with a contrary opinion lol.

If calling someone a troll because they don't agree with you is your fallback argument then something is wrong.

[Ruin]

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people like going to non issues to fill their agenda.

also known as Trolls.

The American definition of troll just means anyone with a contrary opinion lol.

If calling someone a troll because they don't agree with you is your fallback argument then something is wrong.

LMFAO!

This post of yours, which is barely an hour old, didn't age well already now, did it?

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Echo chamber of shills. WTH

You... Raging... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... Hypocrite... *facepalm*

If calling someone a troll shill because they don't agree with you is your fallback opening argument then something is wrong.

[Sparhawk122]

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The American definition of troll just means anyone with a contrary opinion lol.

If calling someone a troll because they don't agree with you is your fallback argument then something is wrong.

LMFAO!

This post of yours, which is barely an hour old, didn't age well already now, did it?

Escrito originalmente por Sparhawk122:

Echo chamber of shills. WTH

You... Raging... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... Hypocrite... *facepalm*

If calling someone a troll shill because they don't agree with you is your fallback opening argument then something is wrong.

Shill just means extreme fanboy. Which you guys are.

[Kashra Fall]

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LMFAO!

This post of yours, which is barely an hour old, didn't age well already now, did it?



You... Raging... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... Hypocrite... *facepalm*

If calling someone a troll shill because they don't agree with you is your fallback opening argument then something is wrong.

Shill just means extreme fanboy. Which you guys are.

Explaining to you how you are wrong and why you are wrong, does not a fan boy make.