Are you stuck with the main character or is it possible to kill her off and replace her?

[Gracey Face]

The We-Yu careerist. I can't remember her name. The intro does not do a good job of making her likeable in any way.

[Narrowmind]

She makes it to the end because she's mainly not playable until the very end. She's a background main character, with a heavy suit of plot armor.

I'm trying to say you mainly play with nobodies. The main girl and guy are background only.

[LukanGamer]

Ya sadly modern days modern bad made characters... I even almost said f the game after the intro and would have preferred a face hugger.

But
thankfully the story can be largely ignored and is minimal, there will be a couple other moments you are forced too play her and do exactly what game wants or fail (what should have just been scenes) like sneaking passed alien or whatever and yaa as above said main time is the ending which sadly not only story wise but gameplay wise is god awful and senseless.
(You don't get too control any marines, lose most your ui, and just get infinite shotgun usage and basic ar bullets killing pointless slow spawning alien areas >_> then after a big scene you click exit area on map wait a while, get lunch come back, hope next scene is done or watch it and repeat click exit map area and wait for her too run there also).

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by LukanGamer:

Ya sadly modern days modern bad made characters... I even almost said f the game after the intro and would have preferred a face hugger.

I actually did say F this after the intro and tried to refund it, only to find out I had bought it more than a fortnight ago and just never got round to playing it. Now wondering if it is worth it and if the story doesn't improve then it's probably not.

That intro is incredibly bad though. I am amazed they went with it. Whatever the character is called does every single thing wrong but they seem to be trying to portray her as intelligent and commanding. At least the stupid marine who puts her in charge because he is too stupid to run the show himself acknowledges that he did it because he is stupid, though why no one stepped in to stop it I don't know...

[cjb28]

She grows on you by the end she redeems herself

[kordelas]

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

That intro is incredibly bad though. I am amazed they went with it. Whatever the character is called does every single thing wrong but they seem to be trying to portray her as intelligent and commanding. At least the stupid marine who puts her in charge because he is too stupid to run the show himself acknowledges that he did it because he is stupid, though why no one stepped in to stop it I don't know...

I like the intro and whole plot.
Also I do not know what she did wrong according to you?
And if we talk about being intelligent, it is known that the majority of the world masses are not. Especially events of 2020 exposed this.

[lynchie72]

Originally posted by kordelas:

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

That intro is incredibly bad though. I am amazed they went with it. Whatever the character is called does every single thing wrong but they seem to be trying to portray her as intelligent and commanding. At least the stupid marine who puts her in charge because he is too stupid to run the show himself acknowledges that he did it because he is stupid, though why no one stepped in to stop it I don't know...

I like the intro and whole plot.
Also I do not know what she did wrong according to you?
And if we talk about being intelligent, it is known that the majority of the world masses are not. Especially events of 2020 exposed this.

You just can't please everyone. As the internet demonstrates on a consistent basis.

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by kordelas:

Also I do not know what she did wrong according to you?

I will do every thing I recall in rough order of the cutscenes. It's entirely possible I missed some.

-She got assigned to a career ending post which isn't technically something she did wrong in the intro but it is a suggestion that she continually does things wrong.
-She is a trouble maker despite being on a backwater post where she has no authority and the guy she's making trouble with has all of the functional authority.
-She goes to a guy she has an antagonistic relationship over her doubts as to the ship taking off with "Hey this is wierd isn't it?" rather than anything concrete automatically guaranteeing that she will be ejected from the command room due to her antagonistic relationship.
-Despite her fears that there's something wrong she does not look up the security cameras for the loading dock in the command center where she could have then immediately brought it to everyone's attention before confronting the dockmaster she instead slinks off to her room to check.
-When she sees camera evidence that there's something seriously wrong in the docking bay instead of immediately going to the control center and bringing it up with the chief, presumably because she is too shy to do that, she instead decides to investigate it herself.
-She has handled herself in such a way that everyone hates her to the point where security guards who are actively watching a bunch of aliens murder people on screen (because you see later on that they have angles from the docking bay) refuse to act on it because "she's a trouble maker".
-She finally gets to the docking bay and the first thing she does is find someone dying who dies in her arms. Instead of then immediately raising an alarm and going back to the command center, like she should, she then decides to investigate it herself for some reason despite having absolutely no ability to resolve whatever situation is happening.
-She finds a security guard who died fighting, which means she with absolutely no training or ability at all will have no chance at all and this should then be the thing that allows her to realise the made the mistake above. She instead decides to grab his gun and do "whatever".
-She finds outright biohazardous waste and a large number of dead all from illegally filed cargo. Instead of IMMEDIATELY RAISING THE ALARM AND USING THE SHIPS COMMS SYSTEMS TO GET EVERYONE MOVING she decides she'll stroll back to the command center to complain at the guy she doesn't like.
-Because of the multiple times she should have but didn't raise the alarm when she finally gets back to the command center everyone is immediately killed because they had no idea they were in danger because she decided not to warn anyone for some reason.
-After repeatedly failing to restore comms so she can broadcast to the military vessel she decides to activate a "kill everything nearby" quarantine, instead of using the communications that the military personnel who are on station that she should have known about had on board their drop ship which then causes even more unnecessary deaths (her bodycount is in the triple figures at this point).

And that's about all that comes to mind right now. Probably more.

[Evil Overlord]

A lot of what you described is easily answered as her trying to climb the ladder still and not realizing she'd been sent to a dead end assignment. As for the antagonistic relationship with the dead guy, it comes down to said disconnect in her motivation vs her job and him trying to 'show her how it's done out here'. He thought he had free junk and she only seen a regulation violation, he was not going to let her pull up ♥♥♥♥ in the command area for so many reasons that made sense to him. Besides, she was expecting to see contraband or something not scenes from friday the 13th.

For comms, gotta remember the comm system was destroyed by the cultists(?).

I will not defend going into the murder room after she was certain there was a threat, that was 100% dumb and in any sane universe she'd be dead but it needed to happen so she could start the plot by being sufficiently motivated to press the kill everyone button.

The only completely defensible thing that happened in the intro was her pushing the death button, the cultists had a shuttle fleeing with more aliens to god knows where and had a larger ship being prepared on the surface with the intention of unleashing aliens on Earth. Even not knowing that or the background the franchise has established for the xenomorphs she has ample reason to suspect letting them out would be disastrous as she witnessed the speed with which they adapted to an artificial environment and slaughtered everything on it save a few escapees.

[kordelas]

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

Originally posted by kordelas:

Also I do not know what she did wrong according to you?

I will do every thing I recall in rough order of the cutscenes. It's entirely possible I missed some.

-She got assigned to a career ending post which isn't technically something she did wrong in the intro but it is a suggestion that she continually does things wrong.
-She is a trouble maker despite being on a backwater post where she has no authority and the guy she's making trouble with has all of the functional authority.
-She goes to a guy she has an antagonistic relationship over her doubts as to the ship taking off with "Hey this is wierd isn't it?" rather than anything concrete automatically guaranteeing that she will be ejected from the command room due to her antagonistic relationship.
-Despite her fears that there's something wrong she does not look up the security cameras for the loading dock in the command center where she could have then immediately brought it to everyone's attention before confronting the dockmaster she instead slinks off to her room to check.
-When she sees camera evidence that there's something seriously wrong in the docking bay instead of immediately going to the control center and bringing it up with the chief, presumably because she is too shy to do that, she instead decides to investigate it herself.
-She has handled herself in such a way that everyone hates her to the point where security guards who are actively watching a bunch of aliens murder people on screen (because you see later on that they have angles from the docking bay) refuse to act on it because "she's a trouble maker".
-She finally gets to the docking bay and the first thing she does is find someone dying who dies in her arms. Instead of then immediately raising an alarm and going back to the command center, like she should, she then decides to investigate it herself for some reason despite having absolutely no ability to resolve whatever situation is happening.
-She finds a security guard who died fighting, which means she with absolutely no training or ability at all will have no chance at all and this should then be the thing that allows her to realise the made the mistake above. She instead decides to grab his gun and do "whatever".
-She finds outright biohazardous waste and a large number of dead all from illegally filed cargo. Instead of IMMEDIATELY RAISING THE ALARM AND USING THE SHIPS COMMS SYSTEMS TO GET EVERYONE MOVING she decides she'll stroll back to the command center to complain at the guy she doesn't like.
-Because of the multiple times she should have but didn't raise the alarm when she finally gets back to the command center everyone is immediately killed because they had no idea they were in danger because she decided not to warn anyone for some reason.
-After repeatedly failing to restore comms so she can broadcast to the military vessel she decides to activate a "kill everything nearby" quarantine, instead of using the communications that the military personnel who are on station that she should have known about had on board their drop ship which then causes even more unnecessary deaths (her bodycount is in the triple figures at this point).

And that's about all that comes to mind right now. Probably more.

My response to each of your points:
-What career ending post? Speculations are not facts.
-She is not a trouble maker based on procedures. Her authority is based on her position in the company.
-She is correct about procedures not being followed and was dismissed as she already finished her shift.
-She was ignored and dismissed by her superior. Also off-duty. That is why she started investigating a situation in her private time.
-As above.
-Her superior told the security to ignore her. And no it is not shown that they were watching feed from the docking bay. She herself could not make out what is going on based on the feed. Also protocols are not followed correctly.
-She was already ignored by her superior and the security. And shed did not know what actually happened to the guy. Thus all she could do is to ignore everything or continue her investigation.
-She does not know what happened there and for her own safety she took a gun. And she was still investigating the situation.
-She still did not know what happened there and found out that cargo does not contain ore. And she was ignored by her superior and the security. Once she found out that there is something loose out there, she faced her superior (yes, the main guy on the station) physically. He still thought that it is absurd.
-Again. She was ignored by her superior and the security.
-She followed quarantine procedures.

As you can see, you are corrected now.
If you have more points, I will address them too.

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by kordelas:

My response to each of your points:
-What career ending post? Speculations are not facts.

You should maybe pay attention to the game before trying to "correct" a commentary on the game.

[ArterialSpray1066]

She's a loyal little corporate drone who follows corporate procedure, doesnt much care about people, and regrets it. That's her plot arc. Once you finish the prologue and the first round of character introductions, she then more or less takes a back seat until the epilogue, though unfortunately the Sgt is benched entirely at one point.

TBH I dont get the people who sputter on about the plot being bad from the prologue (don't get me wrong there are issues later on but they are minimal at the set up stage). Is it just because people don't like one character (who I don't think you are supposed to like at this point) and thats it?

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by ArterialSpray1066:

TBH I dont get the people who sputter on about the plot being bad from the prologue (don't get me wrong there are issues later on but they are minimal at the set up stage). Is it just because people don't like one character (who I don't think you are supposed to like at this point) and thats it?

No, it's because the plot is bad. I mean as an example you say "she's a good little corporate drone". Admittedly We-Yu is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moronic at times but is "stupidly rush into a violent situation that you know nothing about without telling anyone else" company policy?

(I mean hell it might be, but you have to let the audience know that somehow.)

I have to ask though, how is the Sgt benched. I assume he turns out to be a psyker, does he get killed or does he get captured for experimentation?

[kordelas]

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

Originally posted by kordelas:

My response to each of your points:
-What career ending post? Speculations are not facts.

You should maybe pay attention to the game before trying to "correct" a commentary on the game.

Again. Speculations are not facts.
You are corrected.

[ArterialSpray1066]

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

Originally posted by ArterialSpray1066:

TBH I dont get the people who sputter on about the plot being bad from the prologue (don't get me wrong there are issues later on but they are minimal at the set up stage). Is it just because people don't like one character (who I don't think you are supposed to like at this point) and thats it?

No, it's because the plot is bad. I mean as an example you say "she's a good little corporate drone". Admittedly We-Yu is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moronic at times but is "stupidly rush into a violent situation that you know nothing about without telling anyone else" company policy?

(I mean hell it might be, but you have to let the audience know that somehow.)

I have to ask though, how is the Sgt benched. I assume he turns out to be a psyker, does he get killed or does he get captured for experimentation?

Stupidly rushing in was what happens when the drone isnt allowed to follow procedure (because she gets shuts down despite her following procedure).
Yes her going into the bay after finding the injured guy is absolutely stupid, but people do stupid things when exposed to extreme circumstances. Have you ever read reports on how many people die because they walk back into burning buildings for instance? Shes a desk jockey with an inflated ego who is pissed at being constantly sidelined and has something to prove. I absolutely agree its nuts that she didnt even try to pull any emergency alarm or make a call, but we also dont see any such items in the area (which is silly unto itself but not inconsistent with the setting. lol).


As for the SGT He get's sent to medical when his headaches become increasingly debilitating later in the game.

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by kordelas:

...

When I was telling you to pay attention to the game I was subtly telling you that you should read the character bios in the encyclopedia. Admittedly being subtle with you is probably incorrect so that's my bad.

Originally posted by ArterialSpray1066:

As for the SGT He get's sent to medical when his headaches become increasingly debilitating later in the game.

Are his headaches explained as psychic phenomenon or do they go unexplained? I have always found the psyker element in the Aliens universe to be wierdly tacked on.

As for "Well if you're stupid enough" then yeah all of her actions can be explained by her being monumentally stupid, but the issue is that the game very strongly seems to be trying to play her as an intelligent and competent character, for example how she interacts with the crew of the military vessel when she is perplexingly made captain of the boat.