What the Hell was that ending?

[TheAbortionator]

Seriously? Do literally all the marines die at the end? What the ♥♥♥♥ is the point trying to keep anyone alive through the missions. Game is fun, but man what an ass story.

[NOBLE SIX]

It's not that they die, it's that you don't see it happen. A last stand for the marines would have been pretty cool. However a tough evacuation mission where you have to sacrifice a few might have been a better choice.

[Entstehung]

I am not sure we saw the same ending. The ending was definitely disappointing, considering it killed three named characters off unnecessarily; however, all of the marines you controlled survive. They are back on the Otago, which escaped low orbit after the Cerberus Protocol was activated.

[pRaX]

Originally posted by Entstehung:

I am not sure we saw the same ending. The ending was definitely disappointing, considering it killed three named characters off unnecessarily; however, all of the marines you controlled survive. They are back on the Otago, which escaped low orbit after the Cerberus Protocol was activated.

The squad you did mission 11 with and the ones that came down with the dropship are getting literally overwhelmed and murdered in the ending cutscene.

But sure, that doesn't mean everyone is dead. You don't see Hunslet getting into the freezer either and she's definitely alive.

[kordelas]

The story is cool as it does not have some BS cliche nonsense. Some characters died, some survived. In regards to marines you had likely surviving those who stayed on Otago and those from Dropship.

[kordelas]

Originally posted by pRaX:

The squad you did mission 11 with and the ones that came down with the dropship are getting literally overwhelmed and murdered in the ending cutscene.

Yes, perhaps some marines died there but it is not known how many excluding 3 women.

[NOBLE SIX]

The game is obviously heavily influenced by Darkest Dungeon, but ultimately it resolves the story of the characters and not your squad per say, and that perhaps is the mistake and why people are a bit miffed by the ending.

If you'd have seen your squad fighting some last stand against the aliens around a big pile of pheromones while everyone else was getting to the Otago... that would've been cool.

[Entstehung]

Originally posted by pRaX:

Originally posted by Entstehung:

I am not sure we saw the same ending. The ending was definitely disappointing, considering it killed three named characters off unnecessarily; however, all of the marines you controlled survive. They are back on the Otago, which escaped low orbit after the Cerberus Protocol was activated.

The squad you did mission 11 with and the ones that came down with the dropship are getting literally overwhelmed and murdered in the ending cutscene.

But sure, that doesn't mean everyone is dead. You don't see Hunslet getting into the freezer either and she's definitely alive.

The problem is that those marines look very standard, not like the custom marines from the other cutscenes since it's a cinematic. The ARC is also missing (unless I am blind), so there's a chance your marines were extracted with the ARC while new marines secured the landing site, even though they weren't present in the final Mission 11 cutscene. This does seem like a potential developer oversight.

Either way, the marines on the rest of the Otago should be alive because the shields held. So if the marines from Mission 11 died and are the same ones in the final cutscene, at minimum you lost six marines + Stern .

Edit: Mean't to say APC

[pRaX]

Two of your Otago marines come out of the dropship, adding to your 5. Which can be seen walking all the way off screen from the dropship ramp.

In total, 10 soldiers and 1 PMC are lost + the APC.

[kordelas]

Originally posted by Entstehung:

The problem is that those marines look very standard, not like the custom marines from the other cutscenes since it's a cinematic. The ARC is also missing (unless I am blind), so there's a chance your marines were extracted with the ARC while new marines secured the landing site, even though they weren't present in the final Mission 11 cutscene. This does seem like a potential developer oversight.

Either way, the marines on the rest of the Otago should be alive because the shields held. So if the marines from Mission 11 died and are the same ones in the final cutscene, at minimum you lost six marines + Stern .

ARC had been destroyed by WY dropship.

[Ron Stoppable]

Well there is a trophy for all Marines surviving the campaign, so they live.

[kordelas]

Originally posted by pRaX:

Two of your Otago marines come out of the dropship, adding to your 5. Which can be seen walking all the way off screen from the dropship ramp.

In total, 10 soldiers and 1 PMC are lost + the APC.

Two were killed by the final boss + 2 near the dropship + Harper from exhaustion. So 5 in total. We can only speculate what happened to the APC, your team, how many marines arrived in the dropship, how many marines left besides the 3 women.

[kordelas]

Originally posted by Ron Stoppable:

Well there is a trophy for all Marines surviving the campaign, so they live.

Surviving the campaign while you control them.

[pRaX]

Originally posted by kordelas:

Originally posted by pRaX:

Two of your Otago marines come out of the dropship, adding to your 5. Which can be seen walking all the way off screen from the dropship ramp.

In total, 10 soldiers and 1 PMC are lost + the APC.

Two were killed by the final boss + 2 near the dropship + Harper from exhaustion. So 5 in total. We can only speculate what happened to the APC, your team, how many marines arrived in the dropship, how many marines left besides the 3 women.

Squad of 5 marines from mission 11, 2 additional from the dropship, Ramirez + Stern (PMC) and the APC, no need to speculate, is not in the dropship. + Harper being on the Otago.

I mean, if you wanna go hard on the semantics, sure, then only Stern, Harper and Ramirez died and the APC became just camera shy or grew wings, because none of the marines in the pre-rendered and recorded cutscene are ours.
Maybe Hunslet did a 100 trips while mission 12 played out or Christ and Shrek showed up, replacing the marines with synths and teleported the APC away.
Who knows? Everything is possible and most certainly fake news.

[Entstehung]

Originally posted by kordelas:

Originally posted by Entstehung:

The problem is that those marines look very standard, not like the custom marines from the other cutscenes since it's a cinematic. The ARC is also missing (unless I am blind), so there's a chance your marines were extracted with the ARC while new marines secured the landing site, even though they weren't present in the final Mission 11 cutscene. This does seem like a potential developer oversight.

Either way, the marines on the rest of the Otago should be alive because the shields held. So if the marines from Mission 11 died and are the same ones in the final cutscene, at minimum you lost six marines + Stern .

ARC had been destroyed by WY dropship.

I mean't to say APC, let me correct that. We don't see the APC destroyed.

Originally posted by pRaX:

Two of your Otago marines come out of the dropship, adding to your 5. Which can be seen walking all the way off screen from the dropship ramp.

In total, 10 soldiers and 1 PMC are lost + the APC.

There are two marines next to Maeko in that cutscene, but we don't see them exiting the ramp in-game, so we don't know if they are custom marines. (If by chance you watched Mission 11 gameplay from DanQ8000's channel, those marines were actually part of his squad).

The APC is still missing from that cutscene, but I suppose it could be off to the side. If we assume those two soldiers by Maeko are generic marines, then there is a possibility that the rest were generic as well, and your previous squad left somehow; the only two possibilities being that they were already onboard or the ending mission was longer than it appeared so Hunslet returned to the Otago temporarily.

If none of that is true, then 9 marines died (including Rico and Harper) + Stern.

[pRaX]

Yeah so I put my money on Christ and Shrek doing their thing.
And no, I haven't watched anyone's gameplay, I've played my own and the two marines that came out on my end were not part of the squad I used but marines I had on standby.
Which made the ending a big bummer for me personally in that regard, seemingly losing alot of characters.
But ofc, everyone was ready to sacrifice themselves anyway so I guess it's fine.