It's a magazine not a clip

[Bitterman]

"Wider Clip" upgrade. Lol.

[Iron Horse]

Originally posted by ThatZenoGuy:

Originally posted by Iron Horse:

Incorrect. And also, reloading the MAGAZINE with a clip is FAR different from trying to put a CLIP into a magazine fed gun.

https://external-preview.redd.it/_cx7KeewbJSD0BYuXBAqfjk0V93xwlyshG9k6rIZkos.jpg?auto=webp&s=956a9dda673ad8a2e93ed74da4268b7889ac43dd
You absolutely can load a FAL, or at least some versions, with a clip.

Now tell me how many MODERN firearms do this? FAL/Galil is not modern by any definition.

Plus it should be telling that there's one miniscule example in the entire ocean of counter examples.

[Iron Horse]

Originally posted by Kan3da.:

Originally posted by Fannidan13:

That's the beans though, in the age of information, ignorance is a consciensious choice. These things are pantomimed and echoed to the point that there are people that think they are one and the same. It's not slang, it's incorrect nomenclature. It's a bad habit that breeds further ignorance. Don't get me started on my problems with Marines, Security, and veterans in games that don't know proper gun safety and handling my guy. Doesn't matter if you were a LtCol. or a SgtMajor, if you were flagging other Marines with your rifle, you'd get spartan kicked in the chest.

From the NRA glossary:


CLIP
A device for holding a group of cartridges. Semantic wars have been fought over the word, with some insisting it is not a synonym for "detachable magazine." For 80 years, however, it has been so used by manufacturers and the military. There is no argument that it can also mean a separate device for holding and transferring a group of cartridges to a fixed or detachable magazine or as a device inserted with cartridges into the mechanism of a firearm becoming, in effect, part of that mechanism.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110718225409/http://www.nraila.org/issues/FirearmsGlossary/

Ive also served with US marines in Kosovo in the 90s and "clip" got used plenty.

Nobody got ana* about calling the filtration device a mask either.

The difference between being a pedantic twa* stickler or someone caring about accuracy is usually quickly asessed by applying the following logical construct:

If no one gets confused, its usually pedantic stickler twa* ♥♥♥♥ to make a fuss.

A mask is a device that covers half, most, or all of your face. Whether it filters anything or not, a mask is a mask.

A CLIP will not fill the role of a MAGAZINE. Period. Talk about being pedantic.

[dgresevfan]

Originally posted by Gralzeim:

Yeah basically every modern military uses bolt-actions for precision shooting and anti-materiel rifles 'cause they're reliable and easier to clear in case of a misfire. Doubt that'd change in the future. "higher tech" isn't always better in every use case. Sometimes less complexity is better.

What's so hard about clearing a semi-auto rifle in the case of a misfire? Whenever I encounter a bolt action sniper rifle in a game I wish it was a semi-auto Barrett M82. Imagine what that thing would do to an alien queen.

[Sunshine]

Originally posted by Kevin the Inkling:

Think that's bad. The Sniper riffle is described as a "Bolt Action" Which has been an outdated type of firearm design that was being phased out shortly after WW2.

It's the internet.
Lots of dumb people and dumb posts.
But this... this is next level.

[God2567]

Originally posted by Kevin the Inkling:

Originally posted by StoriesBonesTell:

They are game devs, cut them some break. Most of them have likely never owned a gun

Think that's bad. The Sniper riffle is described as a "Bolt Action" Which has been an outdated type of firearm design that was being phased out shortly after WW2.

no its not....bolt action rifles are still highly produced and even new designs coming out.....bolt action guns are highly popular among precision shooters....

[Sunshine]

Originally posted by Kevin the Inkling:

M110 the current US Standard Sniper Riffle is Semi Auto not Bolt Action.

Wrong/Misleading.
The M110 is ONE weapon system of the US Army. The Army also uses bolt actions and will continue to do so, guaranteed.
The Marines still use an M40 variant, bolt action, the Air Force still relies on the M24 SWS, also bolt action.

Every single long range kill record in the past has been achieved with bolt action rifles, minus the kill Hatchcock achieved in Vietnam with a machine gun.
I wonder why your superior ~800m range semi auto rifles don't hold these records... mh, a mystery!

Originally posted by Kevin the Inkling:

In fact most serious Militaries have been investing into Semi auto Sniper Riffles.

Of course armed forces world wide invest into semi auto rifles, they need them for their designated marksmen, mostly. Meanwhile, all of these also keep investing into new bolt action rifle designs. I guess they just didn't get your memo that bolt action rifles are "outdated".

Originally posted by Kevin the Inkling:

While a Bolt Action is reliable. It doesn't actually boost any inherent better accuracy.

Except it does.
Go shoot any M24/M40/M700 platform or similar at 800m and now do the same with any modern semi auto rifle... and then think really hard about why your semi-auto groups fail to impress in comparison.

Originally posted by Kevin the Inkling:

What effects the accuracy of a Sniper riffle is barrel length, properly calibrated scope. And maybe a Tripod.

Please, stop talking.

[Leo Major]

THE BULLET GOES INTO THEEEE CLIII IIIIIPP AND THE CLIII IIIPP GOES INTO THEEEEEEEE MAGAZINEEEEEEE AND THE MAGAZZZINE FEEDS INTO THE GUNS CHAAAMBER AND THE CHAMBER HOLDS THE BULLET and the green grass grows all around and around and the green grass grows alllll arrrouuuuuuuuuunnndddd

it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ paradox

[moonlightavenger]

I am very glad for this conversation. When the day comes I am chased by a glorified cockroach with acid blood i'm going to point at the object and scream "This is a magazine!" and watch their heads explode around me.

[Kåt Tsun]

uh you read a magazine you load a clip duh

[Patarack]

Originally posted by Kåt Tsun:

uh you read a magazine you load a clip duh

Facts.

[ThatZenoGuy]

Originally posted by Grimm Reefer:

it's a Xenomorph, not an alien.

Xenomorph only means 'alien shape' in Latin. It's a catch-all word for 'aliens' in the Aliens universe.

The actual name of the Alien is not "Xenomorph".

[Master-Steel]

Is no one really gonna talk about how the smart gun was probably just a camera harness that Ridley Scott thought would look cool as a gun harness instead?

[Kan3da.]

Originally posted by Franzosisch:

Originally posted by Kan3da.:

From the NRA glossary:


CLIP
A device for holding a group of cartridges. Semantic wars have been fought over the word, with some insisting it is not a synonym for "detachable magazine." For 80 years, however, it has been so used by manufacturers and the military. There is no argument that it can also mean a separate device for holding and transferring a group of cartridges to a fixed or detachable magazine or as a device inserted with cartridges into the mechanism of a firearm becoming, in effect, part of that mechanism.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110718225409/http://www.nraila.org/issues/FirearmsGlossary/

Ive also served with US marines in Kosovo in the 90s and "clip" got used plenty.

Nobody got ana* about calling the filtration device a mask either.

The difference between being a pedantic twa* stickler or someone caring about accuracy is usually quickly asessed by applying the following logical construct:

If no one gets confused, its usually pedantic stickler twa* ♥♥♥♥ to make a fuss.

Your given evidence literally has magazine and clip being two different things.

Your mask example makes no sense because of course people will call the mask a mask.

You are the one being anal here bud.

My given evidence has also literally the statement that there is no problem whatsoever in using the terms interchangeably for either clip or magazine for over 80 years and the NRA says its fine.

Seems you missed that part somehow and didn't address it at all.

I can also assure you that there is more argument over the term mask then clip from your average US Marine Battalion CSM.

Now, explain to me how im being anal by dislodging the one argument thats speaking for this whole unnecessary pedantry about the term clip being used as a colloquialism for magazine.

I hope your not one of those dudes that thinks explaining to people how they are being silly for no reason is being anal. That would be some dog chasing his own tail logic right there.

[Kan3da.]

Originally posted by Iron Horse:

Originally posted by Kan3da.:

From the NRA glossary:


CLIP
A device for holding a group of cartridges. Semantic wars have been fought over the word, with some insisting it is not a synonym for "detachable magazine." For 80 years, however, it has been so used by manufacturers and the military. There is no argument that it can also mean a separate device for holding and transferring a group of cartridges to a fixed or detachable magazine or as a device inserted with cartridges into the mechanism of a firearm becoming, in effect, part of that mechanism.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110718225409/http://www.nraila.org/issues/FirearmsGlossary/

Ive also served with US marines in Kosovo in the 90s and "clip" got used plenty.

Nobody got ana* about calling the filtration device a mask either.

The difference between being a pedantic twa* stickler or someone caring about accuracy is usually quickly asessed by applying the following logical construct:

If no one gets confused, its usually pedantic stickler twa* ♥♥♥♥ to make a fuss.

A mask is a device that covers half, most, or all of your face. Whether it filters anything or not, a mask is a mask.

A CLIP will not fill the role of a MAGAZINE. Period. Talk about being pedantic.

Oh boy, you really dont know much about respirators and chemical/biological filtration devices, do you?

Funny that you made the same argument for the term mask others are making for clip.

Particularly funny is that you chose to ignore the NRA statement that clip and magazine is used interchangeably and its fine.

If your standing next to a pile of m4 magazines and the guy shooting at the range asks you to throw him another clip, are you confused as to what he wants?

If you'd start that argument on some ranges in Texas you can bet your ass that at least 1 guy will jokingly suggest to put one into your foot for being a dumb smart-ass for no reason.

[dgresevfan]

Originally posted by Master-Steel:

Is no one really gonna talk about how the smart gun was probably just a camera harness that Ridley Scott thought would look cool as a gun harness instead?

Not probably.

Definitely. It's an MG42 with random bits of motorcycle attached to it and linked up to a steadycam rig.