Smartgun

[dgresevfan]

I haven't unlocked this yet but from the item screen it seems a bit odd. 1 bullet per burst? Both this and the pulse rifle should be more like 3-4 bullets per burst based on the movie.

And the stats are weirdly similar to the pulse rifle. So what exactly is the advantage of the smartgun?

What it SHOULD do is massively raise the marine's accuracy. Is there some hidden stat I haven't noticed that does this?

[Batailleuse]

it's roughly on par with the pulse rifle damage wise, but you do have 50% more bullet per magazine (and magazine do matter in this game), but the class itself (gunner) get an upgraded suppressive fire for the team (slows even more), and you get +10 precision when you manually target things. so they tend to hit more overall.

also you can transform their gun into a sentry on demand.

they are good to have on any team really.

[dgresevfan]

Originally posted by Batailleuse:

it's roughly on par with the pulse rifle damage wise, but you do have 50% more bullet per magazine (and magazine do matter in this game), but the class itself (gunner) get an upgraded suppressive fire for the team (slows even more), and you get +10 precision when you manually target things. so they tend to hit more overall.

also you can transform their gun into a sentry on demand.

they are good to have on any team really.

I guess the sentry thing is taking the place of regular auto-aim in this. Not terrible, but the smartgun should be auto-targeting enemies with almost 100% accuracy.

That's what it's FOR. Getting a bonus by targeting a specific enemy seems a little odd. That's the opposite of what I'd expect this thing to do.

Suppressive fire is also the opposite of what I'd expect this thing to do. I mean, it should be hitting seeing as the gun targets enemies by itself. Suppressive fire is basically shooting to miss.

[Dirteedeeds]

Originally posted by dgresevfan:

Originally posted by Batailleuse:

it's roughly on par with the pulse rifle damage wise, but you do have 50% more bullet per magazine (and magazine do matter in this game), but the class itself (gunner) get an upgraded suppressive fire for the team (slows even more), and you get +10 precision when you manually target things. so they tend to hit more overall.

also you can transform their gun into a sentry on demand.

they are good to have on any team really.

I guess the sentry thing is taking the place of regular auto-aim in this. Not terrible, but the smartgun should be auto-targeting enemies with almost 100% accuracy.

That's what it's FOR. Getting a bonus by targeting a specific enemy seems a little odd. That's the opposite of what I'd expect this thing to do.

Suppressive fire is also the opposite of what I'd expect this thing to do. I mean, it should be hitting seeing as the gun targets enemies by itself. Suppressive fire is basically shooting to miss.

Agree, thats why its called a "Smart gun". it's autoaiming for you, so you dont have to.

[Steven]

Originally posted by dgresevfan:

Originally posted by Batailleuse:

it's roughly on par with the pulse rifle damage wise, but you do have 50% more bullet per magazine (and magazine do matter in this game), but the class itself (gunner) get an upgraded suppressive fire for the team (slows even more), and you get +10 precision when you manually target things. so they tend to hit more overall.

also you can transform their gun into a sentry on demand.

they are good to have on any team really.

I guess the sentry thing is taking the place of regular auto-aim in this. Not terrible, but the smartgun should be auto-targeting enemies with almost 100% accuracy.

That's what it's FOR. Getting a bonus by targeting a specific enemy seems a little odd. That's the opposite of what I'd expect this thing to do.

Suppressive fire is also the opposite of what I'd expect this thing to do. I mean, it should be hitting seeing as the gun targets enemies by itself. Suppressive fire is basically shooting to miss.

suppressive fire is not shoot to miss in this game it just unloads a lot of ammo at target so I noticed that if i setup two marines on suppressive it mows a lot of stuff down that is coming in.

but yah that smart gun is suppose to auto target so it should give huge bounce to hit, I would think it could still miss sometimes sense its shooting so quickly, but the machine gun smart gun should do both suppressive fire and have high hit ratio.

[dgresevfan]

Especially considering how insanely low the default accuracy seems to be...

One in three bullets hitting??? Who trained these people?

[Delta_Assault]

The smartgun’s tracking system works by infrared.

Remember how the aliens don’t show up on infrared in the movie?

“Maybe they don’t show up on infrared at all.”

[dgresevfan]

Originally posted by Delta_Assault:

The smartgun’s tracking system works by infrared.

Remember how the aliens don’t show up on infrared in the movie?

“Maybe they don’t show up on infrared at all.”

I find it hard to believe they wouldn't have a motion tracking mode. I mean, sentry guns work fine.

Smartguns worked fine in the AVP games, that's for sure.

[RuTucker]

It also works wonders in Alien Fireteam Elite. It even doesn't let you shoot if there is no target, so you don't waste ammo. It also does miss sometimes, when there's to wide of an angle for bullets or you target moves too fast or get behind cover. Again, it's in a TPS (third-Person shooter) game tho.

[dgresevfan]

Originally posted by RuTucker:

It even doesn't let you shoot if there is no target, so you don't waste ammo.

In Fireteam Elite? I never noticed it preventing me firing.

[Team Triss]

Originally posted by dgresevfan:

Originally posted by RuTucker:

It even doesn't let you shoot if there is no target, so you don't waste ammo.

In Fireteam Elite? I never noticed it preventing me firing.

Really? I have. It at least stops you once the target dies.

[Arani]

I'm on mission 6 or something and I still don't even know what a burst is. Is that like, every single shot is a burst? Because if that's the case and you have traits like "50% chance to jam on a burst" or "bursts take double ammo and every bullet after the first one in a burst will always miss", you might as well just dismiss those soldiers and make them cooks or cleaners or something.

[dgresevfan]

Originally posted by Arani:

I'm on mission 6 or something and I still don't even know what a burst is. Is that like, every single shot is a burst? Because if that's the case and you have traits like "50% chance to jam on a burst" or "bursts take double ammo and every bullet after the first one in a burst will always miss", you might as well just dismiss those soldiers and make them cooks or cleaners or something.

My thoughts exactly, because yes it does seem each bullet is a burst... which is silly... because that's with the most automatic weapon in the game.

But I think the 50% jam chance is a typo and it's probably really 0.5% as the Codex claims.

[ThatZenoGuy]

Originally posted by Delta_Assault:

The smartgun’s tracking system works by infrared.

Remember how the aliens don’t show up on infrared in the movie?

“Maybe they don’t show up on infrared at all.”

Smartgun is depicted as locking onto Xenos in most fiction.

I do recall something about the lockon not working perfectly in the aliens colonial marines technical manual. But I'd have to re-check it.

[Doctor Tiki]

Originally posted by dgresevfan:

Especially considering how insanely low the default accuracy seems to be...

One in three bullets hitting??? Who trained these people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TuPell1Y0c

[Realm]

Originally posted by dgresevfan:

Originally posted by RuTucker:

It even doesn't let you shoot if there is no target, so you don't waste ammo.

In Fireteam Elite? I never noticed it preventing me firing.

This was added in the last year iirc as a buff.