Need advice on how genetics and breeding works.

[ICStarz]

Hi.

I only started playing again recently and have no idea how the breeding and genetics work.

I have seen on youtube that there is some "poke with serum and make baby" mechanic, but is there any way to breed mounts so that their stats improve through generations?

I respecced and maxed out breeding for when I can play more, but I just want to collect onfo on how to start a mount/pet eugenics program to create supper mounts.

any advice/youtube tutorials appreciated.

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[Borbarad]

As far as i know it is a Lot of Luck involved. I have at least Not been able to make any Solid conclusions in how breeding wirks Here.

Rule of thumb, the stronger the Parents the Higher the Chance for a strong Baby.

[Abatu]

Originally posted by ICStarz:

Hi.

I only started playing again recently and have no idea how the breeding and genetics work.

I have seen on youtube that there is some "poke with serum and make baby" mechanic, but is there any way to breed mounts so that their stats improve through generations?

I respecced and maxed out breeding for when I can play more, but I just want to collect onfo on how to start a mount/pet eugenics program to create supper mounts.

any advice/youtube tutorials appreciated.

(How Make Stronk Kow??)

Supper mounts?! YOU MONSTER!!!


There's nothing all that complex about it.

If aiming for a zero breed the parents with that stat as close to zero until it hits it. Then try and keep breeding a zero

If aiming for max stats in general (you'll want a zero eventually) just keep breeding the improvements together.

Eventually phenotypes and bloodlines will mutate in, if you want to keep them incoporate them as one of the parents, eventually you'll get a breeding pair of a bloodline or phenotype and it'll usually stay.

It's not an overly complicated system,just time consuming.

The total stats will slowly tick up either way, so your main "job" is to just ensure the stat that hits zero is the right one and that they get the right bloodline and phenotype.

[GreenMan]

Still not sure what phenotypes do. I have types 1-5 for raptors at this point, I pick up every wild baby I see. Bred raptors are about 4th gen and starting to get 6-8 in most stats.

[Pharaonkheops]

Originally posted by GreenMan:

Still not sure what phenotypes do. I have types 1-5 for raptors at this point, I pick up every wild baby I see. Bred raptors are about 4th gen and starting to get 6-8 in most stats.

Phenotype is the "color" of the animal. Most will be be the standard color and have no phenotype ( no purple ADN icon in the right lower corner). Sometime, a breed will have a phenotype mutation to a particular color. This is influenced by some talents in the genetic talents tree. Two creatures with the same phenotype will give it to their breed, but for one mutated and one not, or two mutated from different phenotypes, randomness comes back
Genetics are the stats in the orange graphic. There are 6 of them going from 0 to 10, with 3 being neutral (no bonus nor malus) and stats below giving malus to some of the creature characteristics (speed, carying capacity, etc...) while stats above give bonus. Again the chance for a breed to have a better total in stats than their parents is influenced by your genetics talents.
Finally each creature belongs to a lineage giving a bonus, some better than others... Normally, a breed will inherit from one of its parents. The chance a breed have to get a lineage mutation is very small ( and guess what... genetics talents could give a bonus chance ! )

[Abatu]

Originally posted by GreenMan:

Still not sure what phenotypes do. I have types 1-5 for raptors at this point, I pick up every wild baby I see. Bred raptors are about 4th gen and starting to get 6-8 in most stats.

To use pokemon language as it is better known
Phenotype (shines) does nothing, it is purely a color variation of the species.
But because stats/geno will slowly raise either way you want to try and breed your favorite Phenotype in (for dune raptors 7 for instance is a white body red feathers coloration that fits the blood trolls in wow)



Genotype (IVs) is your stats, they vary 0-10 0-2 are negative,3 does nothing. 4-10 are bonuses you get 60 points so the ideal is to dump 1 stat to 0 and the rest to 10 which stats to dump is subject to change if they change what each does but
For mounts vigor is the dump stat (-80 hp to +200 hp) because 200 isn't that high and the large DR will already compensate
For combat companions (ala wolves and boars) instinct (it is a dead stat on them)
For livestock either vigor(always vigor for cows) or toughness (toughness can make killing them very frustrting so you may end up building a drop tower just to kill them)


Bloodline (nature) is a bonus that does various things, most have a bonus and a negative
The 3 big ones are Alpha (+1 hp/damage each level) Savage (+1% leech chance each level at the expense of -50% health regen) and Timid (+1 movespeed per lvl at the expense of -10% damage)

Timid doesn't work atm but would be a fairly large speed increase after multipliers
Savage is..hit and miss (for instance on slinkers doesn't work right atm)
Alpha is just base stats and works fine.

No bloodline will make or break them in combat once bred though, even ones that directly hurt like bolds -10 physical resist for stamina

[GreenMan]

Thanks for the info. I'm still a bit confused though. I have two phenotype raptors, both type 2. One has red wings/accents, the other is black (or purple in certain light).

Is that just because one is of desert ancestry and the other was a geothermal baby? They didn't seem able to breed together.

[Abatu]

Originally posted by GreenMan:

Thanks for the info. I'm still a bit confused though. I have two phenotype raptors, both type 2. One has red wings/accents, the other is black (or purple in certain light).

Is that just because one is of desert ancestry and the other was a geothermal baby? They didn't seem able to breed together.

Example 1 is a dune raptor.

Example 2 is regular raptor (tamed in the geothermal area)

They aren't supposed to be breedable together no (there is a bug that allows some crossbreeding, icr which one has to be male though)

Both of them have 7 phenotype options.

7 for the gethermal (normal) raptor is a black with purple highlights
7 for the dube is white with red highlights

They have been updated so

https://icarus.wiki.gg/wiki/Dune_Raptor
https://icarus.wiki.gg/wiki/Raptor

Here are the wiki pages with all 7 types shown.