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Catsodomy Aug 12, 2023 @ 2:12am
Polar Bears = ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Since the animal behavior change its absolutely impossible to solo polar bears. If you agro a polar bear, its as good as losing all your XP.

T3 armour and weapons.
And no, you cant toro them like you can other bears, they pinpoint spin and throw you 30 feet.
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thethomasgeorge Aug 12, 2023 @ 2:51am 
really?! thats awesome if they've changed it. It was too easy by just running past them. Drop some hedgehogs or pincer traps to stop them, you can also slow them down with the caveworm bow. It also stacks poison, so it does massive dps per hit
Catsodomy Aug 12, 2023 @ 2:57am 
Originally posted by thethomasgeorge:
really?! thats awesome if they've changed it. It was too easy by just running past them. Drop some hedgehogs or pincer traps to stop them, you can also slow them down with the caveworm bow. It also stacks poison, so it does massive dps per hit
I dont have this stuff, it was supposed to be a two skull scanning mission early in the tree. I had to restart after my character got wiped. I was having fun up until this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reared its ugly head. 6 deaths to polar bears before I gave up. At this point it was just a waste of my time, not a challenge.
william_es Aug 12, 2023 @ 3:45am 
There's an easy fix.

Look for the big dark grey slabs of rock. The ones that are nearly flat on top. It has to be fairly high (some are really low, like lower then the head of your character).

Use your pick to tunnel into the side, and hollow out a little room inside. Crouch when mining, to make the opening as small as possible. I like to use a stone pickaxe because it takes tiny bits out, making a narrow opening.

If you have either the talent or armor that give % chance to mine whole stone at once, it's will screw you here. You can't have it active. I NEVER have the ore/stone one active. It triggers so infrequently, that it's sort of pointless.

Only make _ONE_ entrance. I highly suggest you mark which side has the opening so you can find it quickly, I always have it face a cliff nearby. Sometimes I make standing torches. Make sure you can can get in and out easily, and if you get hung up on anything, use the pick to widen it.

Once you're little stone igloo is ready, shoot at the bear, draw it too you.

Either shoot it in the face or even better, just _knife_ it in the nose. Saves ammo! Sometimes they will end up standing on the rock, and if you're careful you can edge out and shoot them with arrows. The rifle seems to really suck here, given how unreal engine traces points of origin for projectiles: Imagine you have a shoulder mounted predator plasma cannon.... the bullet comes from a foot over one shoulder, not the barrel of the gun. You will end up shooting the rock, a lot. Bow seems to work a lot better here.

If you build two openings, the polar will run back and forth like a headless chicken, and you will have a lot of trouble killing it. Just because it won't stand still even for a second. It will also attack the rock opening a LOT. It _can_ damage the stone, and eventually chew it's way through.

These hollowed stones can also be used as storm shelters, and if you're careful (use the stone pick!), you can make enough room inside a big one for a campfire, a storage box, and a bedroll. If you're brave, you can make the bedroll your spawn point, so if you die, you can recover your gear almost instantly. If you move out of render range, the items in the hollow rock will take damage. It's like the rock de-renders, so the items will be exposed and break. Once the bedroll breaks, you now have _no_ spawn point. So you have to leapfrog from boulder to boulder. Recommend you just take the bedroll with you, plunk it down before each polar bear confrontation.

With this tactic, I've killed polar bears with a bone knife. Just had to repair it few times. just keep stabbing it in the nose.
C''Lol bringer Aug 12, 2023 @ 4:15am 
Originally posted by Catsodomy:
6 deaths to polar bears before I gave up. At this point it was just a waste of my time, not a challenge.

sound like it was a challenge and you didnt have the skill to deal with it. Polar bears are just as easy to deal with as regulare. they just do more dmg and got more hp. You didnt plan properly with any kind of defenses. not that you should actually need it outside the actual scan spawn. They easy to spot and get around.

While the game got issues, the amount of whining from people on stuff that is due to their own lack of planning or skill is just insane zzz
SLayer Aug 12, 2023 @ 6:55am 
in my experience, polar bears and normal bears have mostly same mechanics. I am not a veteran (150+ hr playtime), can kill them in hardcore mode without getting hit with opposite direction running. you just have to do it precisely. Yesterday I was farming for polar bear pelt, was gate-keeping the southern glacier where they spawn periodically, bow only.
Spaceminnow Aug 12, 2023 @ 8:22am 
Polar Bears maybe "lactose" intolerant...
Hehehe... :D
Cucu Aug 12, 2023 @ 8:32am 
First we died all the time, then we stood on buildings using bows, then we learned the bear-dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXxSx_NhQXU
and then there was that guy who showed how to kill a polar bear with only a knife and still not even being hit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If4O0a0cSAU
Catsodomy Aug 12, 2023 @ 2:23pm 
Originally posted by SLayer:
in my experience, polar bears and normal bears have mostly same mechanics. I am not a veteran (150+ hr playtime), can kill them in hardcore mode without getting hit with opposite direction running. you just have to do it precisely. Yesterday I was farming for polar bear pelt, was gate-keeping the southern glacier where they spawn periodically, bow only.

Except I was killing regular bears no problem all day. Those polar bears would pinpoint stop and spin hit. There was definitely something wrong with the mechanics.
william_es Aug 12, 2023 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by Catsodomy:
Originally posted by SLayer:
in my experience, polar bears and normal bears have mostly same mechanics. I am not a veteran (150+ hr playtime), can kill them in hardcore mode without getting hit with opposite direction running. you just have to do it precisely. Yesterday I was farming for polar bear pelt, was gate-keeping the southern glacier where they spawn periodically, bow only.

Except I was killing regular bears no problem all day. Those polar bears would pinpoint stop and spin hit. There was definitely something wrong with the mechanics.

Regular bears did that too after an update. I'm sorry, but the whole "bear jousting" is so idiotic that it makes my head hurt. Bears have _amazing_ reflexes. Ever see a bear fishing? they slap fish out of the air while they're jumping up rapids. Split second timing.

People got so butt hurt after that update, that the devs changed it back.
Catsodomy Aug 12, 2023 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by william_es:
Originally posted by Catsodomy:

Except I was killing regular bears no problem all day. Those polar bears would pinpoint stop and spin hit. There was definitely something wrong with the mechanics.

Regular bears did that too after an update. I'm sorry, but the whole "bear jousting" is so idiotic that it makes my head hurt. Bears have _amazing_ reflexes. Ever see a bear fishing? they slap fish out of the air while they're jumping up rapids. Split second timing.

People got so butt hurt after that update, that the devs changed it back.

I get that its a game, but in real life a 30-06 would be well enough to drop a bear one shot. The fact that it takes multiple shots in the game is already not realistic. There has to be some sort of way to combat animals instead of cheesing the game by burrowing into rocks like the above poster.

Right now it feels like Im peppering them with a .22LR.
Palingenesis Aug 12, 2023 @ 3:14pm 
Originally posted by Catsodomy:
Since the animal behavior change its absolutely impossible to solo polar bears. If you agro a polar bear, its as good as losing all your XP.

T3 armour and weapons.
And no, you cant toro them like you can other bears, they pinpoint spin and throw you 30 feet.

interesting. i did like 8 of them today - no bragging -
Did it with a rifle (long distance) with explosive bullets + shotgun (with +dmg bonus at cost of accuracy and crit ) with armour piercing shells in crouch stance (till its to close and than try to run to the side). rifle on average its 600 a hit and hold the beast if you shoot from a far so you can reload, shotgun at close its c.a. 2k a shot in a face. i didnt even have to reload the shotgun.
though got hit by a bear once or twice
Last edited by Palingenesis; Aug 12, 2023 @ 3:15pm
william_es Aug 12, 2023 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by Palingenesis:
interesting. i did like 8 of them today - no bragging -
Did it with a rifle (long distance) with explosive bullets + shotgun (with +dmg bonus at cost of accuracy and crit ) with armour piercing shells in crouch stance (till its to close and than try to run to the side). rifle on average its 600 a hit and hold the beast if you shoot from a far so you can reload, shotgun at close its c.a. 2k a shot in a face. i didnt even have to reload the shotgun.
though got hit by a bear once or twice

Oh yeah, my usual go to is the 6-shot tier 4 rifle. I have about 10 pts of talents in rifle alone. That combined with stealth talents from hunting means I actually one-shot polar bears occasionally. Most of the time it takes 2-3 shots.

If i'm going into the polar region, that's what I bring, and usually concrete building parts. If it's a scan mission I build a 3 x 3 box around the scanner, and right after I start the radar, I put another block ON the scanner, so it's actually inside the block.

The thing about hollowing out stone rocks was just a thing I came up when doing that one early mission with the out of control non-stop storms, and you have to set up equipment to stop them. Even with full fur armor and heat bandages, my character was freezing non-stop. I leapfrogged from rock to rock, creating mini bases inside each one to warm up.

I was just trying to give the OP a low tech low cost alternative, instead of telling him "go make a tier 4 rifle". Some people don't find the grind fun.
Ketamarine Aug 14, 2023 @ 11:14pm 
Originally posted by william_es:
There's an easy fix.

Look for the big dark grey slabs of rock. The ones that are nearly flat on top. It has to be fairly high (some are really low, like lower then the head of your character).

Use your pick to tunnel into the side, and hollow out a little room inside. Crouch when mining, to make the opening as small as possible. I like to use a stone pickaxe because it takes tiny bits out, making a narrow opening.

If you have either the talent or armor that give % chance to mine whole stone at once, it's will screw you here. You can't have it active. I NEVER have the ore/stone one active. It triggers so infrequently, that it's sort of pointless.

Only make _ONE_ entrance. I highly suggest you mark which side has the opening so you can find it quickly, I always have it face a cliff nearby. Sometimes I make standing torches. Make sure you can can get in and out easily, and if you get hung up on anything, use the pick to widen it.

Once you're little stone igloo is ready, shoot at the bear, draw it too you.

Either shoot it in the face or even better, just _knife_ it in the nose. Saves ammo! Sometimes they will end up standing on the rock, and if you're careful you can edge out and shoot them with arrows. The rifle seems to really suck here, given how unreal engine traces points of origin for projectiles: Imagine you have a shoulder mounted predator plasma cannon.... the bullet comes from a foot over one shoulder, not the barrel of the gun. You will end up shooting the rock, a lot. Bow seems to work a lot better here.

If you build two openings, the polar will run back and forth like a headless chicken, and you will have a lot of trouble killing it. Just because it won't stand still even for a second. It will also attack the rock opening a LOT. It _can_ damage the stone, and eventually chew it's way through.

These hollowed stones can also be used as storm shelters, and if you're careful (use the stone pick!), you can make enough room inside a big one for a campfire, a storage box, and a bedroll. If you're brave, you can make the bedroll your spawn point, so if you die, you can recover your gear almost instantly. If you move out of render range, the items in the hollow rock will take damage. It's like the rock de-renders, so the items will be exposed and break. Once the bedroll breaks, you now have _no_ spawn point. So you have to leapfrog from boulder to boulder. Recommend you just take the bedroll with you, plunk it down before each polar bear confrontation.

With this tactic, I've killed polar bears with a bone knife. Just had to repair it few times. just keep stabbing it in the nose.

That sounds horrifically boring.
william_es Aug 15, 2023 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by Ketamarine:

That sounds horrifically boring.

Actually, white knuckle terrifying. Shooting at polar bears, trying to get as many arrows into it as possible, running for the rock... barely making in time. And then the game of cat and mouse as I tried to shoot it while it was standing on top of the rock. It's was really fun.

Then trying to leapfrog to another rock, without being spotted by one. Back at the time I was doing this tactic, there were WAY more polar bears in the region. About as common as wolfs are in the wolf region. They toned down polar bear frequency since. But it was not uncommon to be able to see 2-3 polar bears from any given spot when the game launched.

And it let me cheese a mission I was totally undergeared, underleveled, and under-talented for.
pappysshoes Aug 15, 2023 @ 6:51pm 
Originally posted by Catsodomy:
Originally posted by william_es:

Regular bears did that too after an update. I'm sorry, but the whole "bear jousting" is so idiotic that it makes my head hurt. Bears have _amazing_ reflexes. Ever see a bear fishing? they slap fish out of the air while they're jumping up rapids. Split second timing.

People got so butt hurt after that update, that the devs changed it back.

I get that its a game, but in real life a 30-06 would be well enough to drop a bear one shot. The fact that it takes multiple shots in the game is already not realistic. There has to be some sort of way to combat animals instead of cheesing the game by burrowing into rocks like the above poster.

Right now it feels like Im peppering them with a .22LR.


I lived in the Bush for 3 years, a video of a Guide and Hunter I saw years ago had the Hunter packing a 375 Holland Magnum, that makes an 06 look like a squirt gun.

He hit it perfectly, left shoulder in the pouring rain so the hit was obvious by the water spray off the shoulder at Impact, that Kodiak Boar turned 90 degrees left and charged, he knew exactly where the shot had come from.

And that is Instructed for shot placement, breaking the shoulder "slows" the Bear down.

Active Guided Hunting and Hunting in general do not go down head shot road, it is too hard to be accurate and the stuff of video games, irl it is a no no.

That 375 bullet broke the near shoulder passed through a lung and exited the other side, the Bear made no indication it had been hit other than Charging.

The 375 fella then missed his other 2 shots shaking like a dog ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ razor blades, the guide who had a 338 Winchester Magnum wrapped his sling on his forearm and leaned on a tree for stability, hit the bear twice and missed once, the 338 is also Light Artillery compared to an 06, that Bear dropped 18 feet from the 2 of them and the camera man who was shaking (see reference), Bear can take a Horrific amount of damage.

He made the first shot at roughly 100 yards, Bear can take a brutal beating.

I would never pack anything less than a 7mm Magnum for any species of Bear besides Black Bear, and an 06 is no sure bet on them, ask any Bear Guide what Caliber to bring to any Grizzly or Kodiak outing and they will reply "the largest caliber you can shoot straight".

Polar Bear are just as tough.

And I was asked to attend Sniper School in the Military, I carried a 300 Winchester Magnum Ruger model 77 all those years ago.

Lots and Lots of misunderstood print about Hunting.

Elephants were hunted with 7mm Mauser, but the young and the Sane don't try it.
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