Torches are stupid....

[thenetimp]

I am just standing there in my base. Holding a torch, and suddenly everything is on fire. It is the dumbest game mechanic of all games ever. I could see if I dropped the torch, but I am holding the torch while waiting for something to craft.

[Regenschabe]

Well, you were probably too close to some object. You can also use it to light friends ^^ I recommend the floor torch for your shelter. Oh yeah also don't stand on your campfire or accidentally walk over it.

[thenetimp]

Originally posted by Regenschabe:

Well, you were probably too close to some object. You can also use it to light friends ^^ I recommend the floor torch for your shelter. Oh yeah also don't stand on your campfire or accidentally walk over it.

How can I be standing too close to the floor. The floor is what caught fire... And yes lighting friends on fire is fun.

[Tasolth]

No, this is a BRILLIANT game mechanic. You would never hold an open flame next to your walls in your real house right? It has happened to all of us at least once or we witnessed it via youtube or other.

It means you need to be a lot more careful about open flames in a dry wooden structure. Makes perfect sense to me.

[Just GIO]

valheim good example... enjoy it for a little bit and fortget it for years...

[hazelrah]

last night i interacted with a crafting table in a cave, and it moved me to standing in front. campfire behind me apparently too close and everything around me caught fire all of a sudden. i could see if the auto move put me on top of a fire i catch fire, but why the oxidizer 5 meters away up on a ledge? i love the mechanic, but it could use some work.

[Nuclear Broccoli]

I set my anvil on fire somehow just picked it up and it was fine

[LordBeltar]

Originally posted by Tasolth:

No, this is a BRILLIANT game mechanic. You would never hold an open flame next to your walls in your real house right? It has happened to all of us at least once or we witnessed it via youtube or other.

It means you need to be a lot more careful about open flames in a dry wooden structure. Makes perfect sense to me.

I think this is sarcasm lol

My frustration is this.... Do you really think I have to have a fire wacker to put our a fire. I've spent my childhood and huge portions of my adult life camping, making fires, even using DIY torches like that (mostly playing around but cave exploring old school style). If I was holding an open flame torch and caught a little wood on fire you better belief I would get that out with a quickness thwacker or not.

Wood also doesn't catch that fast, at least large logs like you would use to build with, actually there are a number of issues with the realism of this mechanic lol best to just remove it ;)

[LuckyLuke]

Originally posted by Tasolth:

No, this is a BRILLIANT game mechanic. You would never hold an open flame next to your walls in your real house right? It has happened to all of us at least once or we witnessed it via youtube or other.

It means you need to be a lot more careful about open flames in a dry wooden structure. Makes perfect sense to me.

I agree to you. And it is a thing, which normally happens once to you ;)

[MysticDaedra]

Thatch catching quickly I agree with and understand. Wood structures comprised of large logs? There's a decent chance that holding a torch to the logs would NEVER catch them in real life. There's a reason you need kindling to start a campfire. Wood structures should not catch as easily as they do currently.

[Intabus]

Originally posted by LordBeltar:

Originally posted by Tasolth:

No, this is a BRILLIANT game mechanic. You would never hold an open flame next to your walls in your real house right? It has happened to all of us at least once or we witnessed it via youtube or other.

It means you need to be a lot more careful about open flames in a dry wooden structure. Makes perfect sense to me.

I think this is sarcasm lol

My frustration is this.... Do you really think I have to have a fire wacker to put our a fire. I've spent my childhood and huge portions of my adult life camping, making fires, even using DIY torches like that (mostly playing around but cave exploring old school style). If I was holding an open flame torch and caught a little wood on fire you better belief I would get that out with a quickness thwacker or not.

Wood also doesn't catch that fast, at least large logs like you would use to build with, actually there are a number of issues with the realism of this mechanic lol best to just remove it ;)

Complaining about the realism in a game that has us traveling across the stars to a different planet in a space ship with a space station in orbit around the planet, only to have the people land on planet and hit things with sticks hoping to mine minerals that don't even have a real name is a little asinine I think.

[LordBeltar]

Originally posted by Intabus:

Originally posted by LordBeltar:

I think this is sarcasm lol

My frustration is this.... Do you really think I have to have a fire wacker to put our a fire. I've spent my childhood and huge portions of my adult life camping, making fires, even using DIY torches like that (mostly playing around but cave exploring old school style). If I was holding an open flame torch and caught a little wood on fire you better belief I would get that out with a quickness thwacker or not.

Wood also doesn't catch that fast, at least large logs like you would use to build with, actually there are a number of issues with the realism of this mechanic lol best to just remove it ;)

Complaining about the realism in a game that has us traveling across the stars to a different planet in a space ship with a space station in orbit around the planet, only to have the people land on planet and hit things with sticks hoping to mine minerals that don't even have a real name is a little asinine I think.

It was meant as a joke ;) that's what the winky face was for.

I think realism in games as a concern is a poor way to define the intent, but that is a whole other conversation.

[ZombieHunter]

Thatch makes sense. Wood does too but it would require a lot more heat than a torch I think. According to some site about log cabins fires actually are very unlikely to destroy the entire home. In fact many cabins survive forest fires just fine. So yes in the game it is portrayed incorrectly. But it is fun to watch.

1. The ratio of surface area to volume is very low. This means that the area exposed to any heat or flames is much smaller than the entire volume of the log. With the more conventionally built homes, there is a larger surface area to volume ratio because of the thinner boards of wood. This causes the wood to catch on fire quicker.
   
2. Charring creates insulation. If the surface of a timber is burned, the log is instantly insulated from more heat. Even if charred, thick logs maintain the majority of their strength.
   
3. The oxygen levels are lower. Because the walls of the cabin are so sturdy, oxygen from the inside doesn’t reach and fuel the blaze on the outside and vice versa.
   There aren’t many pathways for the fire to spread through. The logs used to build your home are constructed so that the structure is well insulated. This means there are very few openings for heated or cooled air to escape or enter. Because the air can’t get in or out, it’s also hard for flames to spread through walls.
   
4. The structure is strong. The massive logs that make up your walls keep your house incredibly sturdy. This means even if a few logs are severely damaged by flames, there is a very small chance of the building collapsing.

https://frontierloghomes.com/cabin-fires/

Also due to the sheer heft and strength of cabins they also withstand extremely high winds.

On a side not the house we build in America now are pretty much garbage. We still use wood for cost and make up the difference in sheetrock which is not strong at all. They are very prone to fires and extremely prone to weather. We have some of the worst storms on the planet and yet in that area of the country you will find shoddy construction. This leaves people nowhere to go. At least we should build safe rooms in every house in Tornado Alley. It should be required. It is now in OK. They have learned some very painful lessons about what an EF5 can do to a home made out of toothpicks.

[✪ aimtekk]

Originally posted by hazelrah:

last night i interacted with a crafting table in a cave, and it moved me to standing in front. campfire behind me apparently too close and everything around me caught fire all of a sudden. i could see if the auto move put me on top of a fire i catch fire, but why the oxidizer 5 meters away up on a ledge? i love the mechanic, but it could use some work.

You don't get moved... only your POV is moved...

[VladK02]

Let me tell you a real-life story about a guy holding a cigarette next to a curtain in a condo....

Long story short, 580,000$ repair bill. One unit completely burnt down, 14 floors flooded by fire supression system, and fire crews wrecking plumbing lines to tap into water pipes.

[Natjur]

I though there was two torches, one is a massive open flame and will burn anything you go near, and the other is a safe flame and you can not burn anything even if you tried?