What's the deal with building with Reinforced glass?

[N7_Shadow]

We have a pretty large building for our tames. I build stairs up to the top, and put crop plots down. I was going to recreate the walls from below, building up two walls with reinforced glass, with a flat roof of glass floors. However, I can't even build two walls. And only the corners would support the glass floors. The rest started buckling and cracking, so I quickly hit Y to recover them.

I wasn't really looking for anything complicated. I had fun building in ARK, and other games, but just wanted to build a solid, large greenhouse to be able to grow what we need. So why are the structures not supported? The structure below is stone walls and floors for the ceiling. I don't want to place pillars inside the pen, as that would make it worse inside the pen, causing animals to get hung up.

Is the solution just to build what I wanted on their own foundations? Is it the height, 4 walls total (two stone walls high + two glass) that's the issue?

[N7_Shadow]

By the way, the animal pen is 6x7 squares and two walls high. No pillars inside the structure, and no interior walls.

[Mundus]

I ran a few tests to see how many pens can stand without bars/pillars, and it looks like you need some kind of bar/pillar (any material) for each 2x2 pen. I’m not sure if this applies to your situation, but considering the dimensions of your pen greenhouse and the lack of pillars, this might be the issue.

[Rekal]

There's the whole structural integrity aspect that's in play. Walls and floors don't transfer support very well so you need to have beams or foundations in place that are connected down to the ground.

So in your example, your walls are two and then you have - I assume - three roof pieces to a peak. Or even just flat floor pieces count. That means your last roof pieces have a distance of 5 pieces from your actual support.

https://icarus.fandom.com/wiki/Structural_Integrity

That page says pretty much everything has a limit of around 5 pieces from the supports before they start to buckle.

So for your build what you need to do is add beam supports along the walls and roofs. No need to add them to the interior. Just make sure the line of beams touch either the ground or a properly supported foundation piece to transfer integrity from. If your roof is peaked or flat you can run the beams along the sloped roof pieces by using the alternate shapes option by holding R. The different beams look pretty good as general trim pieces as well so play around with them.

You can get some really massive structures built and you don't need the beams along every piece as long as they're properly supported. Here's a 10x10 with no interior posts for an example: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3209768216

[SleepWalker]

Originally posted by Rekal:

There's the whole structural integrity aspect that's in play. Walls and floors don't transfer support very well so you need to have beams or foundations in place that are connected down to the ground.

So in your example, your walls are two and then you have - I assume - three roof pieces to a peak. Or even just flat floor pieces count. That means your last roof pieces have a distance of 5 pieces from your actual support.

https://icarus.fandom.com/wiki/Structural_Integrity

That page says pretty much everything has a limit of around 5 pieces from the supports before they start to buckle.

So for your build what you need to do is add beam supports along the walls and roofs. No need to add them to the interior. Just make sure the line of beams touch either the ground or a properly supported foundation piece to transfer integrity from. If your roof is peaked or flat you can run the beams along the sloped roof pieces by using the alternate shapes option by holding R. The different beams look pretty good as general trim pieces as well so play around with them.

You can get some really massive structures built and you don't need the beams along every piece as long as they're properly supported. Here's a 10x10 with no interior posts for an example: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3209768216

Dude, you're always here before me with the great info! Well done.

[N7_Shadow]

Originally posted by Rekal:

There's the whole structural integrity aspect that's in play. Walls and floors don't transfer support very well so you need to have beams or foundations in place that are connected down to the ground.

So in your example, your walls are two and then you have - I assume - three roof pieces to a peak. Or even just flat floor pieces count. That means your last roof pieces have a distance of 5 pieces from your actual support.

https://icarus.fandom.com/wiki/Structural_Integrity

That page says pretty much everything has a limit of around 5 pieces from the supports before they start to buckle.

So for your build what you need to do is add beam supports along the walls and roofs. No need to add them to the interior. Just make sure the line of beams touch either the ground or a properly supported foundation piece to transfer integrity from. If your roof is peaked or flat you can run the beams along the sloped roof pieces by using the alternate shapes option by holding R. The different beams look pretty good as general trim pieces as well so play around with them.

You can get some really massive structures built and you don't need the beams along every piece as long as they're properly supported. Here's a 10x10 with no interior posts for an example: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3209768216

This helped me get it done. I placed pillars all around, and created the lattice with them overhead, so now my greenhouse is complete.

Now, if I can only figure out why,

• 9 water wheels
  
• 4 wind turbines
  
• and 2 solar panels

which should equal 37,000 available, is only giving 31,750. shrugs

[Rekal]

Originally posted by N7_Shadow:

Now, if I can only figure out why,

• 9 water wheels
  
• 4 wind turbines
  
• and 2 solar panels

which should equal 37,000 available, is only giving 31,750. shrugs

The math says 37,000 minus 31,750 equals 5250

5250 is not an even 1000 like the water wheel or solar panel so it must be a turbine. 5250 divided by 1750 equals 3.

It appears three of your turbines aren't registering as connected.

Most people over look the little tool tips on the side, but if you have the electrical tool equipped it says there on the right to use R to inspect the network. That means you can point at the little junction pucks and press R to see what is connected to that point. You can pinpoint where your break is that way.

Also if your sound is loud enough you can hear a difference in the
connection sounds the electrical tool makes when clicking in a new spot or connecting properly to a existing junction.

[N7_Shadow]

Originally posted by Rekal:

Originally posted by N7_Shadow:

Now, if I can only figure out why,

• 9 water wheels
  
• 4 wind turbines
  
• and 2 solar panels

which should equal 37,000 available, is only giving 31,750. shrugs

The math says 37,000 minus 31,750 equals 5250

5250 is not an even 1000 like the water wheel or solar panel so it must be a turbine. 5250 divided by 1750 equals 3.

It appears three of your turbines aren't registering as connected.

Most people over look the little tool tips on the side, but if you have the electrical tool equipped it says there on the right to use R to inspect the network. That means you can point at the little junction pucks and press R to see what is connected to that point. You can pinpoint where your break is that way.

Also if your sound is loud enough you can hear a difference in the
connection sounds the electrical tool makes when clicking in a new spot or connecting properly to a existing junction.

I'm really missing S+ in ARK. That made sense, and you could literally look at a power line, or water pipe, and see if it had flow. Then, even better, you could make them disappear when you didn't want to see them.

I think it may be the turbines. Why do I think this? Well, there are 4, and your math adds up to 3. OK, so here's the problem. I think when I connected the first one, I expected to simply be able to continue the electrical line to the next turbine. I put them on top of the for corners of the greenhouse. It wasn't easy getting the connections up there.

Part of the problem is that the pucks are burying themselves in the stone pillars I ran the electrical along. It would be ridiculous to not be able to connect to the first one, then continue the connection to the next, and the next, and finally to the 4th one.

Why does that not work? Again, I'm missing S+ from ARK. That worked more like real wiring. Even better, you could create blocks to build with, that had wire and plumbing in them. So then, just sitting a machine on that block, worked. Like in your house. You don't have to run new wire for every new appliance you buy and put in your home, or business.

Now that we are all electrical, it looks horrible. Wires and pipes running everywhere, looking all ugly. LOL