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Grand Forks Sep 21, 2023 @ 12:59pm
plat and tit extreamly low on open world caves.
what is going on with the lack of ores now in the caves trying to find platium and titium is so hard to find even with the thumper
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Maps with caves https://www.icarusintel.com/
Olympus + Styx (approx.)
Platinum: 5.38%
Titanium: 5.38%
Iron: 53.76%
Gold: 4.30%
Copper: 16.13%
Aluminum: 4.30%
Coal: 10.75%

Prometheus has its own frequency of occurrence
https://icarus.fandom.com/wiki/Prometheus
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/icarus/images/7/71/Pro_Voxels.jpg
Palad1n Sep 21, 2023 @ 2:54pm 
It would be nice to see more titanium and platinum, as it is, and the large amounts you need to make useful things, you have to essentially find 4-6 caves to get enough to start with, and that is by not mining them up until you have the attachments on your mining pick to get that +25% Titanium.

The thumper isn't that helpful when it comes to restoring these harder to find ores, because there are so few of them to start with, and it takes the most per ingot to make (I believe it is currently 5 titanium ore = 1 ingot, when iron only takes 2...) now if they want to adjust the values so where it is only 2 titanium ore per 1 ingot, then I can make the current levels work.
william_es Sep 21, 2023 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by Palad1n:
It would be nice to see more titanium and platinum, as it is, and the large amounts you need to make useful things, you have to essentially find 4-6 caves to get enough to start with, and that is by not mining them up until you have the attachments on your mining pick to get that +25% Titanium.

The second level of attachment gives +40%. I only mine the absolutely minimum necessary until I get to where I can make the tier 4 alteration bench, so I can make those 2nd level attachments.

If you're on the prometheus map, the distribution of resources in caves actually changes per biome you're in. The arctic and volcanic biomes have tons of both platinum and titanium.
Grand Forks Sep 21, 2023 @ 7:05pm 
well I am on prometheus, should have stated that before, Olympus map i have no problems with.

we went though 85% of the caves in the ice bioms and found 5 or 6 max 9 nodes total out of all those caves of both Plat and titanium. the lava bio is a bit more and again we use the thumper on it twice so far to see what would respawn, some (1 or 2 out of a 5 node cave) not a lot. However when when there are items that cost 20 Titanium plate. at 3 ingots per plate and 5 ore per ingot, that 300 ore just for that one item. getting aprox 40 per node you need a few nodes to just make one item. not to say more.

I get to put additions on your equipment, for mid game and late game stuff but you still need to get some off the start. The spawn rate is incredibility low. Maybe its just this time but damn.

if the respawn or spawn rate is so low on a open world map with multiple players ( 5+ ) there isnt enough ore to even make the upper tier items for everyone. Plat or titan tools. much to say weapons. I am glad as hell they changed composites.

we were not having any luck with plat or titan in the snow biom at all. we did the thumper 5 times without any spawn. of either items. I get you may not get a lot but none is a bit of a schetch. I know your going to say get higher lvl caves well we did 3 different caves 5x on the first one (lvl 2) 3x on the second (lvl 3) and 2x on the third (lvl 3) with the thumper. Zero Plat or titan respawn results every time.

Maybe its just a bad load, I havent done much open world stuff until now so I had no need to try the thumper in the first place but it dont seem like it helps much at all for the trouble you go though (cost vs reward) Cost a lot zero reward.
maw6144 Sep 21, 2023 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by Grand Forks:
well I am on prometheus, should have stated that before, Olympus map i have no problems with.

we went though 85% of the caves in the ice bioms and found 5 or 6 max 9 nodes total out of all those caves of both Plat and titanium. the lava bio is a bit more and again we use the thumper on it twice so far to see what would respawn, some (1 or 2 out of a 5 node cave) not a lot. However when when there are items that cost 20 Titanium plate. at 3 ingots per plate and 5 ore per ingot, that 300 ore just for that one item. getting aprox 40 per node you need a few nodes to just make one item. not to say more.

I get to put additions on your equipment, for mid game and late game stuff but you still need to get some off the start. The spawn rate is incredibility low. Maybe its just this time but damn.

if the respawn or spawn rate is so low on a open world map with multiple players ( 5+ ) there isnt enough ore to even make the upper tier items for everyone. Plat or titan tools. much to say weapons. I am glad as hell they changed composites.

we were not having any luck with plat or titan in the snow biom at all. we did the thumper 5 times without any spawn. of either items. I get you may not get a lot but none is a bit of a schetch. I know your going to say get higher lvl caves well we did 3 different caves 5x on the first one (lvl 2) 3x on the second (lvl 3) and 2x on the third (lvl 3) with the thumper. Zero Plat or titan respawn results every time.

Maybe its just a bad load, I havent done much open world stuff until now so I had no need to try the thumper in the first place but it dont seem like it helps much at all for the trouble you go though (cost vs reward) Cost a lot zero reward.
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Best place is the cave that leads you to the lava biome, tons of plat and titanium!
WhoopinOnYou Sep 21, 2023 @ 8:29pm 
As the above post says, the pass through cave in I3 has a lot of Titanium and Platinum. I just pull 404 pieces of Titanium from there last night and I'm not sure I even got it all. Most I'm sure.
Spook Sep 21, 2023 @ 8:56pm 
I'm just curious about people who play maps with more than 4 players;

Does everyone actually need to have fully top tier gear?

I tend to maintain groups that have some people that dont want to do combat whatsoever, just farm and make things and build, while some guys just want to kill stuff and boss fight and gather. I just set up a task list and order of upgrades based on peoples play style and at most I only ever need to kit two people in top gear.

My overall thought;

Is the game too easy when 5+ players are all kitted in max gear?
Grand Forks Sep 22, 2023 @ 6:12am 
Originally posted by Crystal:
I'm just curious about people who play maps with more than 4 players;

Does everyone actually need to have fully top tier gear?

I tend to maintain groups that have some people that dont want to do combat whatsoever, just farm and make things and build, while some guys just want to kill stuff and boss fight and gather. I just set up a task list and order of upgrades based on peoples play style and at most I only ever need to kit two people in top gear.

My overall thought;

Is the game too easy when 5+ players are all kitted in max gear?


yes your right it is very easy, What i have noticed is not all the players are doing the same thing.

some are just farming some are just getting nodes and crafting unnecessary stuff and building these crazy houses. while the few are doing the missions with less gear than top gear. That is what open world is suppose to be like i guess. Believe it or not I have learned a bunch of stuff from them since i was only doing missions only before. Never really went past tier 2 if tier 3 at that.

That is not my complaint its the spawn rate and how low it is. If it had 50 node cave that had platinum and i use a thumper on it i should see some results even at 3% respawn rate. I could be using it all wrong I have no idea. Never really used it before.

if I have to run to the lava biom every time then i guess that is how its going to have to be, it should reflect on the missions then in the open world map. it starts you in easy then swamp then snow then lava. I get all that it make sense, you should be at a tier 4 going into the lava biom. What the missions state. Or am i reading it wrong?

Thanks for the info on the location I am going to try the thumper on that spot again just to see if respawns, the less running the easier it can be. Renewable resource is the goal. most of the ore we just drop on the ground, gold, copper, iron, alum. we have drills for that which cost titanium. go figure.... lol

I do it because i can, its also testing the items in the game that i had no use for before. I mean it only takes a few minutes to do and the ground worms are nothing to kill. I think we kill each other more then the creatures do.
Spaceminnow Sep 22, 2023 @ 7:53am 
I believe that crafting with platinum or titanium is a "committal" move.
If there isn't that much of it; it would force a decision how to use it...

Meaning, depending on the mission, what "special" item(s) would you craft to help hasten mission completion?
william_es Sep 22, 2023 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by Crystal:
I'm just curious about people who play maps with more than 4 players;

Does everyone actually need to have fully top tier gear?


As long as they stay in their lane. There was one game where a doorknob was running around with a workshop pickaxe that counted as steel... and he mined out whole caves. Put all the ore in boxes.

He had no talents for mining yield. Not attachements, no buffs, no higher tier pickaxe.

We lost potentially 100's of ore.

He did other things like clearcut whole forests... including trees we wanted left for the view.

Once again, almost no resource talents. He used a stone axe.
Omence072 Sep 22, 2023 @ 9:30am 
More tit is always better
Apocalypse Sep 22, 2023 @ 10:47am 
I heard more ore types are coming to deep mining veins in the future patch notes.
Grand Forks Sep 22, 2023 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by william_es:
Originally posted by Crystal:
I'm just curious about people who play maps with more than 4 players;

Does everyone actually need to have fully top tier gear?


As long as they stay in their lane. There was one game where a doorknob was running around with a workshop pickaxe that counted as steel... and he mined out whole caves. Put all the ore in boxes.

He had no talents for mining yield. Not attachements, no buffs, no higher tier pickaxe.

We lost potentially 100's of ore.

He did other things like clearcut whole forests... including trees we wanted left for the view.

Once again, almost no resource talents. He used a stone axe.


you get one every map i think.
Grand Forks Sep 22, 2023 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by Apocalypse:
I heard more ore types are coming to deep mining veins in the future patch notes.

It would be nice even if they slowed it down for deep mining. or just bump up the thumper's spawn rate a little bit. I am happy with that it makes it a usable item then.
Grand Forks Sep 22, 2023 @ 1:50pm 
Originally posted by Spaceminnow:
I believe that crafting with platinum or titanium is a "committal" move.
If there isn't that much of it; it would force a decision how to use it...

Meaning, depending on the mission, what "special" item(s) would you craft to help hasten mission completion?

The problem is atm that it must be used for all of the tier 4 machines and still lacking a bit even then. Mind you the limits of travel. If I searched all of the caves in the lava then I most likely be ok with it but when its all used up then what. your scratching around trying to figure out how to get more or start a new map.

I am working what we need and could use. but the lava dome put us in an ok state currently, still dont like to run across the map when i have a thumper to get more in the caves. Its about efficiencies travel less for the same product. even if it does not re-spawn at the same rate but zero is not my idea of low spawn rate. in the lava biom we got a few to respawn but we only did it a few times so far with about 4 nodes total. its something but not great. I can live with that. snow biom absolutely sucks aprox >10 attempts with a zero spawn of Plat or titan.

I put is as risk vs reward, if i craft something that re spawns nodes. and i go to a spot in which it spawns there and get no spawn rate, its no reward for all the risk. Again it could be just this map or from an update I dont know. I been trying to figure multiple different ways to get get a respawn that works well.
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