Icarus
Solo play and difficulty
Not that it matters, but I'm one that prides themselves on always playing the highest difficulties in any game I get - sometimes even right out of the box. I enjoy the challenges but something doesn't seem quite right with this game.

That being said, I've run into some lower-end missions that I've found to be downright impossible. This isn't really a COMPLAINT, but moreso, I believe I might be missing something crucial and am hoping for some suggestions before I give up. Here's some examples (sorry I can't remember mission names right now):

Some things that I'd like to point out, first. I have *most* things unlocked for armor/combat. Talents are getting there, but I'm just shy of level 40 if that means anything. Before doing objectives I always try to build a small hut nearby with a bedroll, fireplace, etc. Also before doing objectives, I usually try to have the most updated/powerful gear I can.

A tier 2 mission where I had to kill a polar bear. So I am well aware of the attack pattern and sprinting by it. As stated I have the highest level gear I can muster. The damn thing won't die at all. It ate all 60 of my higher-end arrows to the face and still one shot me. (I spent HOURS trying to find caves to be able to even craft those arrows and now I'm at a complete loss...) The one time I got the bear down to approx. 10% health 2 others came out of NOWHERE and of course I wiped.

A tier 3 mission where I needed to repair a ship, then guard it while it rebooted to launch. Mission was stupid easy up until I needed to reboot it. At that point it spawned 3 boss bears and what felt like 50 wolves -- all aggro'd. No sneak attacks possible and I became COMPLETELY overwhelmed - no hope at all! Needless to say they destroyed the objective and my house that i'd built up AROUND the objective (knowing I would need to protect it...) in a matter of moments.

Both of these examples are 6+ hours EACH of failing and getting absolutely no rewards.

This is unfun, and frustrating. Seems like a huge grind with no reward in a lot of cases...
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ThunderX Feb 8, 2023 @ 1:45pm 
Tip.... make 3 wooden beams load in tool bar pick as you are going to place it, press R and hold, choose the angled one. Now place beam and attach the other 2 now climb to top and crouch so it won't allow you to fall off. Shoot down at your enemies. I also like to put a few camp fires directly under so it burns them as well. Good luck and have fun!

Also youtube is full of icarus videos of how to,s as well.
Last edited by ThunderX; Feb 8, 2023 @ 1:48pm
LostInTheStatic Feb 8, 2023 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by ThunderX:
Tip.... make 3 wooden beams load in tool bar pick as you are going to place it, press R and hold, choose the angled one. Now place beam and attach the other 2 now climb to top and crouch so it won't allow you to fall off. Shoot down at your enemies. I also like to put a few camp fires directly under so it burns them as well. Good luck and have fun!

Will try, thanks for suggestion.
Pach Feb 8, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
Part of the frustration is that some of these missions... are not low-level, but they are available off the starting biome.

When the game released, the quests off the first biome (forest) were ... basically appropriate for a starting character. That would be these quests:

Headstone: Geosurvey
Strange Harvest: Bioresearch
Agriculture: Supply Stockpile (might have been an early addition, but still appropriate level)
Kill List: Extermination
Argos: Exploration

And of course, the two that open the next areas:
Dry Run: Expedition
Icestorm: Expedition

Everything else was added LATER. And when they were added, the fact that they were being hung off the "starting" biome wasn't necessarily considered.

Most notable of those, is Forsaken: Recovery, which is intended as a high-level mission, not for people just starting the game.

Some of the other later adds, ARE level-appropriate, like Potshot and Spelunking (which provides higher tier tools for the mission).

But there's no way for new players to know this (IMHO, they should have put Forsaken in Riverlands....)

There's also no indication that you really need to be level 20-ish do to Dry Run or Icestorm (hard level 20 for Icestorm, for the fur armor unlock, iirc.)

So while there is "kind of" a level progression through the mission tree... it's... not hard and fast rules... and that makes it hard for someone starting out/new to know what missions to take... and which to avoid until later (unless they happen to get some advice somewhere).
Last edited by Pach; Feb 8, 2023 @ 3:41pm
Empathise Feb 8, 2023 @ 5:49pm 
Many of us here have solo'd every mission on Hard / Hard Core. It can be done. The tools are there for you to succeed, you just have to know how to use them.
Trik Feb 8, 2023 @ 11:08pm 
Don't know how you cant find caves? First mission off the game you drop in proximity of 3 caves, 1 literally behind you. Starting zone have most of the caves. Second how hard is tu run along clifts? I have found most of the caves by my self in beta weekend, before cave maps came out.
Mourn Feb 8, 2023 @ 11:56pm 
what a lot of people have a real problem with is adapting and trying a different playstyle.
Bears 1 shot you ? try building a "ramp" from wooden poles about 3 or more high with cross pieces on top and sniping the bears from one of the cross pieces, make sure you're off to the side of the main support and crouched down, a: so the bears don't attack the support and b: so you don't fall off. In some cases if you can get the "ramp" high enough, the bears will "lose" you and start to wander off, perfect for a stealthy crit shot to the head.
You can also build barriers from the wooden poles that will slow down animals, like a square with an X in it and linked to the next etc until you enclose the area you want to and it's an easy job just to stand and just stab them in the head, then repair any damage.
Can't find caves ? some are well hidden or even underwater, some are even hidden behind cave walls underwater, lol, try finding an "edge" of the map and just following it, you can usually identify the pattern for a closed cave, then just "mine" your way in, or, you can look up the map for caves and other stuff on IcarusIntel. Pretty sure I posted a few screenshots a fair while back showing some of the things you can do with the poles to get above enemies.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2728342652
Hope it helps.
PS: The spiked wall fortifications are great, hedgehogs are okay, but don't last long for the cost.
Last edited by Mourn; Feb 9, 2023 @ 12:06am
LostInTheStatic Feb 9, 2023 @ 5:10am 
Originally posted by Empathise:
Many of us here have solo'd every mission on Hard / Hard Core. It can be done. The tools are there for you to succeed, you just have to know how to use them.

Understood it's possible, just having a hard time in the beginning I suppose. Hence why I'm asking for suggestions. I'll spend a bit more time in open world playing around with different things. Thanks, friend.
LostInTheStatic Feb 9, 2023 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by Trik:
Don't know how you cant find caves? First mission off the game you drop in proximity of 3 caves, 1 literally behind you. Starting zone have most of the caves. Second how hard is tu run along clifts? I have found most of the caves by my self in beta weekend, before cave maps came out.

I seem to spend a LOT of time running around the cliff faces/map edges looking for caves. I don't want to 'cheat' and use maps, and I'm aware of how to spot the "covered" caves - they just seem to be few and far between...
Squidsome Feb 9, 2023 @ 8:47am 
Originally posted by LostInTheStatic:
Not that it matters, but I'm one that prides themselves on always playing the highest difficulties in any game I get - sometimes even right out of the box. I enjoy the challenges but something doesn't seem quite right with this game.

That being said, I've run into some lower-end missions that I've found to be downright impossible. This isn't really a COMPLAINT, but moreso, I believe I might be missing something crucial and am hoping for some suggestions before I give up. Here's some examples (sorry I can't remember mission names right now):

Some things that I'd like to point out, first. I have *most* things unlocked for armor/combat. Talents are getting there, but I'm just shy of level 40 if that means anything. Before doing objectives I always try to build a small hut nearby with a bedroll, fireplace, etc. Also before doing objectives, I usually try to have the most updated/powerful gear I can.

A tier 2 mission where I had to kill a polar bear. So I am well aware of the attack pattern and sprinting by it. As stated I have the highest level gear I can muster. The damn thing won't die at all. It ate all 60 of my higher-end arrows to the face and still one shot me. (I spent HOURS trying to find caves to be able to even craft those arrows and now I'm at a complete loss...) The one time I got the bear down to approx. 10% health 2 others came out of NOWHERE and of course I wiped.

A tier 3 mission where I needed to repair a ship, then guard it while it rebooted to launch. Mission was stupid easy up until I needed to reboot it. At that point it spawned 3 boss bears and what felt like 50 wolves -- all aggro'd. No sneak attacks possible and I became COMPLETELY overwhelmed - no hope at all! Needless to say they destroyed the objective and my house that i'd built up AROUND the objective (knowing I would need to protect it...) in a matter of moments.

Both of these examples are 6+ hours EACH of failing and getting absolutely no rewards.

This is unfun, and frustrating. Seems like a huge grind with no reward in a lot of cases...

It happened to me aswell when I was learning this game, playing solo you need to over prepare yourself in many missions before start doing them, I mostly do not bother building a base I just get in the first cave I find and build everything I need there to save time and resourcers (but remember to go out once in a while before you get the neumonia debuff) with that mission you mentioned that you got overwhelmed by wolfs I literally died the same way, but next mission I built a palasite with spikes around it so I can shoot from the safety of the walls and keep on repairing them and shoot them with hundreds of arrows, the game is really far from impossible is just if you going to play hardcore and hard at the same time over prepare yourself with armour, good weapons, potions and best food possible every time you need to defend or hunt bosses.

Also you can always check out the wikia to understand what exactly the mission is asking for you, I know is a bit cheesy but honestly you will understand, many missions they make you go in the middle of the artic and then ask you for example to bring them 100 pumkin pies, so go walk all the way back to the forest just to know what you had to do exactly is not very fun, rather just read it on the wikia so you can save youself from many surprises, I do not think is cheating honestly the mission should be explained to you straight forward before even land in the planet instead of SURPRISE YOU ARE BEING ATTACKED BY 100 wolfs good luck defending it with your stone spear!
Last edited by Squidsome; Feb 9, 2023 @ 8:50am
Empathise Feb 9, 2023 @ 10:50am 
Originally posted by LostInTheStatic:
Originally posted by Empathise:
Many of us here have solo'd every mission on Hard / Hard Core. It can be done. The tools are there for you to succeed, you just have to know how to use them.

Understood it's possible, just having a hard time in the beginning I suppose. Hence why I'm asking for suggestions. I'll spend a bit more time in open world playing around with different things. Thanks, friend.

Don't give up, you said you pride yourself in the challenge, so see it as that. I would much rather have the challenge than a game with a big "I WIN" button... I love that you have to actually think and plan out a mission. It has gotten MUCH easier, a year ago, it took me 9 hours to solo Payday Extraction, now I can do it in less than 2 hrs. Many changes have carebear'd the game..
MycroftCanadaNS Feb 9, 2023 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by LostInTheStatic:
Not that it matters, but I'm one that prides themselves on always playing the highest difficulties in any game I get - sometimes even right out of the box. I enjoy the challenges but something doesn't seem quite right with this game.

That being said, I've run into some lower-end missions that I've found to be downright impossible. This isn't really a COMPLAINT, but moreso, I believe I might be missing something crucial and am hoping for some suggestions before I give up. Here's some examples (sorry I can't remember mission names right now):

Some things that I'd like to point out, first. I have *most* things unlocked for armor/combat. Talents are getting there, but I'm just shy of level 40 if that means anything. Before doing objectives I always try to build a small hut nearby with a bedroll, fireplace, etc. Also before doing objectives, I usually try to have the most updated/powerful gear I can.

A tier 2 mission where I had to kill a polar bear. So I am well aware of the attack pattern and sprinting by it. As stated I have the highest level gear I can muster. The damn thing won't die at all. It ate all 60 of my higher-end arrows to the face and still one shot me. (I spent HOURS trying to find caves to be able to even craft those arrows and now I'm at a complete loss...) The one time I got the bear down to approx. 10% health 2 others came out of NOWHERE and of course I wiped.

A tier 3 mission where I needed to repair a ship, then guard it while it rebooted to launch. Mission was stupid easy up until I needed to reboot it. At that point it spawned 3 boss bears and what felt like 50 wolves -- all aggro'd. No sneak attacks possible and I became COMPLETELY overwhelmed - no hope at all! Needless to say they destroyed the objective and my house that i'd built up AROUND the objective (knowing I would need to protect it...) in a matter of moments.

Both of these examples are 6+ hours EACH of failing and getting absolutely no rewards.

This is unfun, and frustrating. Seems like a huge grind with no reward in a lot of cases...

Have you ever considered on creating a barrier of wood piles (three deep depending on the difficulty), even four deep, and stand on a stone pile high enough they can't each you, and once they start their attack set the wood piles on fire with arrows.

This way they have to fight through walls of fire taking constant damage, and you get to keep shooting them.

I always have a second location I can get too surrounded by another three to four deep wood piles which I set on fire if they change course, and attack me there.

IF you require to protect a particular structure then do the same thing, set up four to 5 deep bundles, and set them on fire.

I've done this for every mission I knew I was going to be outnumbered, and always made it out.
Last edited by MycroftCanadaNS; Feb 9, 2023 @ 2:21pm
ZombieHunter Feb 9, 2023 @ 2:23pm 
^ +1

Building stone piles next to your fences and/or buildings works quite well. Weather also does not affect the piles so this can also protect your structures before you get to stone.
LostInTheStatic Feb 10, 2023 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by MycroftCanadaNS:
Originally posted by LostInTheStatic:
Not that it matters, but I'm one that prides themselves on always playing the highest difficulties in any game I get - sometimes even right out of the box. I enjoy the challenges but something doesn't seem quite right with this game.

That being said, I've run into some lower-end missions that I've found to be downright impossible. This isn't really a COMPLAINT, but moreso, I believe I might be missing something crucial and am hoping for some suggestions before I give up. Here's some examples (sorry I can't remember mission names right now):

Some things that I'd like to point out, first. I have *most* things unlocked for armor/combat. Talents are getting there, but I'm just shy of level 40 if that means anything. Before doing objectives I always try to build a small hut nearby with a bedroll, fireplace, etc. Also before doing objectives, I usually try to have the most updated/powerful gear I can.

A tier 2 mission where I had to kill a polar bear. So I am well aware of the attack pattern and sprinting by it. As stated I have the highest level gear I can muster. The damn thing won't die at all. It ate all 60 of my higher-end arrows to the face and still one shot me. (I spent HOURS trying to find caves to be able to even craft those arrows and now I'm at a complete loss...) The one time I got the bear down to approx. 10% health 2 others came out of NOWHERE and of course I wiped.

A tier 3 mission where I needed to repair a ship, then guard it while it rebooted to launch. Mission was stupid easy up until I needed to reboot it. At that point it spawned 3 boss bears and what felt like 50 wolves -- all aggro'd. No sneak attacks possible and I became COMPLETELY overwhelmed - no hope at all! Needless to say they destroyed the objective and my house that i'd built up AROUND the objective (knowing I would need to protect it...) in a matter of moments.

Both of these examples are 6+ hours EACH of failing and getting absolutely no rewards.

This is unfun, and frustrating. Seems like a huge grind with no reward in a lot of cases...

Have you ever considered on creating a barrier of wood piles (three deep depending on the difficulty), even four deep, and stand on a stone pile high enough they can't each you, and once they start their attack set the wood piles on fire with arrows.

This way they have to fight through walls of fire taking constant damage, and you get to keep shooting them.

I always have a second location I can get too surrounded by another three to four deep wood piles which I set on fire if they change course, and attack me there.

IF you require to protect a particular structure then do the same thing, set up four to 5 deep bundles, and set them on fire.

I've done this for every mission I knew I was going to be outnumbered, and always made it out.

Thanks, I'm learning more and more as time goes on these little tricks that I would have otherwise never really thought of.
MycroftCanadaNS Feb 13, 2023 @ 1:23am 
Originally posted by LostInTheStatic:
Originally posted by MycroftCanadaNS:

Have you ever considered on creating a barrier of wood piles (three deep depending on the difficulty), even four deep, and stand on a stone pile high enough they can't each you, and once they start their attack set the wood piles on fire with arrows.

This way they have to fight through walls of fire taking constant damage, and you get to keep shooting them.

I always have a second location I can get too surrounded by another three to four deep wood piles which I set on fire if they change course, and attack me there.

IF you require to protect a particular structure then do the same thing, set up four to 5 deep bundles, and set them on fire.

I've done this for every mission I knew I was going to be outnumbered, and always made it out.

Thanks, I'm learning more and more as time goes on these little tricks that I would have otherwise never really thought of.

Yup, learn as you go.
Ygolnac Feb 14, 2023 @ 8:29am 
On Difficult Mode most bosses are just insane bulletsponges unbalanced for solo players. This being said, it canbe done, but you need to know what will spawn beforehand and be prepared.

The completly legit way is try yourself and know what will happen on your skin, then probably die and retry. Otherwise there are playthroughs for every mission.

First you should overdo defensive buildings like wooden spikes and spiked walls, and place them after a storm so you have some time untill next storm. Also clear the area from trees bushes and kill and skin all the regular predators near the spawn point. Then build infrastructures where you can stay, knowing that beams can't be climbed or damaged, and everything except elephants and mammuths can't reach a storey high platform.

Craft antipoison for bosses that poison you, superfood (for example jarred carrots raise ranged crits). Incendiary bullets or arrows are supereffective against those bulletsponges, but they can make woods catch fire, so prepair the terrain and build your hanging platforms in stone if you plan to use them.

In some cases you need an ocean of spiked woods and you have to kite the boss on them, like the giant scorpions. It takes several hours of gatghering, crafting, and preparing.

I think that the extra effort is not worth and i solo in normal mode, but if that's your vibe it can be done.
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