Hosting Change has killed the game...

[Gisborne]

Being able to play with or without friends, when each other is offline was the one great thing about this game, now they removed it? what the actual f... why would they remove this? absolutely ridiculous.

[Barren791]

This may kill it for me too, had to migrate and started a mission and spent 2 hours on it. Game crashed, came back and it wants me to make a new character like it is my first time playing. Force Migration was the only way to get my characters to show again, 2 hours in a mission is gone. I would rather the old way than this new garbage way of saving characters and mission creator can only host.

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by CanadianDaryl:

This may kill it for me too, had to migrate and started a mission and spent 2 hours on it. Game crashed, came back and it wants me to make a new character like it is my first time playing. Force Migration was the only way to get my characters to show again, 2 hours in a mission is gone. I would rather the old way than this new garbage way of saving characters and mission creator can only host.

i guess they did it to save money because the game is dead and they cant afford it, a shame as i wanted to get back into this but not now. I'll stick with Grounded which allows shared worlds.

[Barren791]

We just had 2 people buy it on the Dec 2nd to bring our group to 5, guess one week of playing it was good and RW got their money. Sucks cause this had replaced Rust for us as our goto survival game.

[MoonLiteNite]

and for this BS i am out. Put in a request for steam refund, but after over 100 hours i doubt ill get it. But just straight up scammed... not even a 1 year and they kill the CLOUD SAVE SERVER, not even the game server, but just the ability to save to the cloud so your buddy could auto load off it on his free time.

Now i have to legit email a game save to someone else if they want to play without me.... what a freakn joke, last time i did that was like in 2001 with CIV3 PTW..... and even that had an auto email future where it could actually email the game save to the next player.

[RickFrick]

Originally posted by CanadianDaryl:

We just had 2 people buy it on the Dec 2nd to bring our group to 5, guess one week of playing it was good and RW got their money. Sucks cause this had replaced Rust for us as our goto survival game.

I plan to get around the issue by using a dedicated server, so anyone could log in. They are working on the beta in the discord.

[natherSTAR]

What the hell? Why can't I continue the game without my friend??? What is the point of this update, one of the features of this game was that I or my friends could play, and it doesn’t matter who was the host of the task, now, the one who created the tasks can launch the game world, and without it you won’t be able to enter. What was the point of removing this moment from the game... Now we are 3 people who are waiting for the host...

[The Surreal Taco]

WEEK 53 - The week no one wanted

[Reyouka]

They straight up said that dedicated servers are going to be a thing.

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by Reyouka:

They straight up said that dedicated servers are going to be a thing.

Great another thing I have to pay for and rent

[Barren791]

Originally posted by Reyouka:

They straight up said that dedicated servers are going to be a thing.

Yup and we have had to restart those a few times too cause none of the nodes were giving items except stone. It would hit and break like it was but giving you nothing in return. Server restarts fixed it.

It really seems more of a money thing to have to rent servers just to get the same options as before.

[AJH16]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by Reyouka:

They straight up said that dedicated servers are going to be a thing.

Great another thing I have to pay for and rent

They have no monetization strategy other than initial sales. Paying for cloud infrastructure for the game hosting indefinitely was shortsighted on their part. It was nice while it lasted, but there's no way they can afford it with their current business model.

Would you rather they fill the game with micro-transactions or have a subscription for the game itself, because those are the other options. You can't have a live service game with intense hosting needs without some continuous revenue stream and they don't have the scale to run their own infrastructure (which would still need some kind of continuing funding, but would at least be cheaper than their current AWS solution.)

To their credit, they kept paying the bills until they had a dedicated server ready to release in beta.

[Gards]

If it does go down the dedicated server like many games they will have to pay to host them. Also the amount of players allowed in the server will need to be more than 8. This, plus players hosting servers might be enough.

[Spikenard]

Quite the opposite of "ruined" for me as it made it WAY better for me and my brother. I run the dedicated server on the same computer I play Icarus on. he's across the country on Starlink. And it's never been smoother for either of us. I'm glad they finally released dedicated servers. We can still play anytime either of us want. Our dead characters have been revived. Performance has been much smoother overall. Short of a spastic boar and wolf, we haven't had any issues so far.

[WarNerve]

This isn't unique to Icarus. Unless it has been changed, the last time I played Valheim it was like this as well. If you were the host when you started a world with your friend/friends, they could not play in that same world by themselves. You had to be online to host the gameworld again. I believe 7 Days to Die was/is this way as well.
Though having the ability to play in the same game-world, that you and your friends all have been sharing together, suddenly taken away, does leave a very bad taste in the mouth.

Personally, I have never played Icarus online at all yet. I've only every played it solo. So if I do start playing co-op with someone it wont be any different for me than when I played Valheim, or 7D2D. I can definitely understand being upset over this change, though. I'm irritated over having the prospect I had been playing completely wiped out. Hours of work, gone...

[Barren791]

@AJH16 probably has said it best and changed my thoughts, running servers cost money and with no money coming in other than from new sales. Its something RW couldn't keep going forever. Styx released as a free DLC and at the size of the map is something that is uncommon in this day when Day 1 DLC drops so often.

It is a bad taste just like so many other things you have in life for free then you don't, my group rented a server for us and when you look at it. It cost us like 2 bucks a month each which is less than an large coffee. We could have setup our own dedicated but none of us really have time for that.