Why is the Machete a T4 item?

[[SOT]Avongunn]

It uses Iron Screws wood and Epoxy but I need a Fabrication table for it? Yet I can make a Platinum Ax on a Machining Bench? Weird

[Wolf]

even more entertaining, if you try it, you'll realize you still do better damage with an iron knife :D

[[SOT]Avongunn]

Originally posted by Wolf:

even more entertaining, if you try it, you'll realize you still do better damage with an iron knife :D

I haven't found that but then I try really hard NOT to go toe to toe with animals with Teeth and claws.. Arrows or Bullets to the head from range and stealth:)

[Bishamonten]

No idea why machete is T4 it should be T2 instead would make much more sense but the devs don't think like that no idea what made them put something that is weaker than a lower tier into a higher tier tech tree it is similar to concrete that has less durability than stone despite it being a T3 building material and needing more resources to make it

[[SOT]Avongunn]

Originally posted by Matticus:

No idea why machete is T4 it should be T2 instead would make much more sense but the devs don't think like that no idea what made them put something that is weaker than a lower tier into a higher tier tech tree it is similar to concrete that has less durability than stone despite it being a T3 building material and needing more resources to make it

I have a feeling we will find out the Concrete stone thing is a typo.. Concentrate will likely become 3000 to make it better

[Bishamonten]

would be good if they fix the entire tech tree and make higher tier building material better than lower tier the same problem for aluminium that has same durability as wood which is a T1 and aluminium is T3 so many tech tree related problems on top of low talent points and half the talents just a waste of space or don't even work how they are supposed to work they should class this as EA instead of full release at least that is what i would class it as with how many bugs and how poorly optimised the game is right now

[Marilith]

The machete is worth it for the skinning animation. You don't carry it in a reverse grip normally but it skins just like you do with a knife and it's pretty funny with the blunt tip and all. It's got a yield penalty so funny is really the only reason to bother.

It does a ton of per-hit damage but swings slower so it's a wash in actual combat. Despite it mentioning flora, it doesn't do felling damage for some reason so other than durability and the fun of creeping up behind things and one-shotting them with what looks like a long cleaver to the back of the head, it's not very good.

Why you need to research it to get better knives is yet another mystery of life. The tech tree's a mess in general but the wheels come completely off in T4 (not just hierarchy but cost/utility ratio, basic functionality and so on).

[Bishamonten]

T4 is a major problem there is a thread or a few about T4 been too overpriced and not really worth the time unless you are on a T4 mission but the tech tree itself could do with a overhaul and fixing to make it better

[Daredevil]

Oh no! Someone found a stupid thing in Tier 4! Impossible

[Trik]

Originally posted by Wolf:

even more entertaining, if you try it, you'll realize you still do better damage with an iron knife :D

Do you want to say iron knife is overpowered compering with tier3 and tier4

[Enforcer]

Originally posted by Wolf:

even more entertaining, if you try it, you'll realize you still do better damage with an iron knife :D

Sure you don't want to withdraw that assertion?
https://icarus.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Knives#Knives

[YunggGravy]

Originally posted by Matticus:

would be good if they fix the entire tech tree and make higher tier building material better than lower tier the same problem for aluminium that has same durability as wood which is a T1 and aluminium is T3 so many tech tree related problems on top of low talent points and half the talents just a waste of space or don't even work how they are supposed to work they should class this as EA instead of full release at least that is what i would class it as with how many bugs and how poorly optimised the game is right now

I really agree with much of the sentiment from this post and many others. I love the game and my 470 hours show for it. However the tech tree is frustrating with things like the Machete. However, I hope this is the reason, why balance it out now if they are still adding things? The Workshop items have to be balanced in as well, and so I applaud the constant updates the devs gave us. This was in spite of the pandemic as well.

However, perhaps it is time for them to show some love to the tech tree. Plus I have hundreds of points to spend, haha! That is still an area that needs further development and I am excited to see what comes. Paid DLC for more levels? Worked for Warcraft and many others. Now we keep our data, thanks devs!