It's incredibly annoying that the predators of the game still gang up on the characters.

[j-val76]

Bears and wolves basically tag teaming. When is that going to be corrected? Pack wolves shouldn't be hanging out with the bears. Also, where are the wolf and bear cubs? There's baby deer, but no other youth animals. This game just entered beta. It's not a complete game.

[Spook]

It gets worse when you hit Elephants.

Practice headshots. It matters.

Spoken from someone else who also gets mauled regularly by large groups of predators.

[Spook]

Originally posted by baddoggs:

Elephants are supposed to be tough. Have you ever seen one?
Imagine trying to kill one with a sharp stick. VERY few people
could manage that IRL.

If I mention anything about Elephants behavior in real life in relation to this game, I'm going to get laughed at again.

So instead I'll pitch this wild idea I had just now.

Aggressive elephants typically only really happen when you threaten the tribe/children in the herd. But Icarus doesnt exactly have herds and we havnt seen ANY baby predator animals, only the herbivore deer. So this leads me to have to consider that all the predator species may have just been made extinct by all of their children being wiped out due to the terraformation event failing, so they are all extra agressive trying to find mates that dont exist and are getting increasingly hostile because of it. The Herbivores simply adapted faster due to a prevalent availability of genetically manipulated plants of alien matter reformatted into roughly the equivalent of Earth food.

... I had to stop and re-read my own paragraph.

No, look, I cant make sense of any of the predator behavior patterns. Its just one of those weird quirks of survival games we have to get used to. If it was alien looking animals instead of Earth looking animals, these conversations wouldnt even exist and I understand its silly to argue over it.

.... Why elephants, though? In the DESERT. Where there isnt enough plant life to support them. I... I guess its close enough to the plant biomes to... to migrate to and from... I guess?

Trying to logic games is probably a bad idea.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by baddoggs:

Elephants are supposed to be tough. Have you ever seen one?
Imagine trying to kill one with a sharp stick. VERY few people
could manage that IRL.

I tell people the same thing about the bears. They're underestimating how tough those animals can be.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by jlval87:

Bears and wolves basically tag teaming. When is that going to be corrected? Pack wolves shouldn't be hanging out with the bears. Also, where are the wolf and bear cubs? There's baby deer, but no other youth animals. This game just entered beta. It's not a complete game.

Wolves and bears are supposed to work together to kick your butt. Nothing is broken, therefore there's nothing to correct. It's working as intended.

Yeah, I'm okay with no wolf pups and no bear cubs. Imagine two or three bear cubs (they're pretty big), plus momma bear, trying to eat you while the local wolf pack, who just happens to be friendly with momma bear, is also trying to eat you. No, thanks.

[Nephelim]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Wolves and bears are supposed to work together to kick your butt. Nothing is broken, therefore there's nothing to correct. It's working as intended.

How on Earth would you know? Are RW parsing through forum posts to find the tragic defenders of every flaw in the game and promoting them to the design team now?

[Wicked Spectre]

People need to relax on "how animals behave in real life" and just remember it's a video game. Can't wait until they release the aliens so people can stop complaining about "how they're supposed to behave."

[ZombieHunter]

I'm ok with elephants being tough. For sure I'm not going to go to Africa and try to shoot an elephant with a stone or bone arrow and think that is going to end well for me. I think my main issue is the spawn rate of wolves and polar bears. Wolf spawn rates are simply out of control. I've had 5 or 6 spawn near my base and run up to my door. As soon as I get out of my base another one is waiting. Bear spawns seem to be pretty low but polar bears are ridiculous. They spawn everywhere in the arctic. And sometimes right in front of you because there isn't any foliage to hide where they spawn.

[Kryten]

I am just very annoyed that none of these "predators" seem to hunt anything else than the player. Never have I seen one hunting actual prey.

[ZombieHunter]

Originally posted by Kryten:

I am just very annoyed that none of these "predators" seem to hunt anything else than the player. Never have I seen one hunting actual prey.

Haha. LOL. So true. I never thought of that. But very true. On that same note I think 90% of the wolves and predators would starve b/c there isn't enough wildlife around to keep them fed.

[Trik]

I dont know how do you get in this mess? how do you manage not to see animal around ?
sneak kills do not aggro any surrounding animals. beer you can hear them from miles, and first thing you do you loo around where is him, and look for woolfs at same time, kill woofs first, before hitting bear

[Spook]

Originally posted by Trik:

I dont know how do you get in this mess? how do you manage not to see animal around ?

I asked one of my teammates this recently and found out they turned off in game sound and were listening to some metal bands, because he didnt think in game sound mattered.

Oops. XD

[Excal]

Tbh the wild life needs work. They are so bland and disappointing. They don't interact with eachother and yes they all gangup on the player.

Pretty sure they are like 500 dollar bought assets form somewhere too. It's hilarious going into the desert and getting attacked 1 by 1 by 2 cougars, then 2 boars, then 3 hyenas I swear.... also wish the so called alien wildlife aren't as plain and simple as deer, cougar and wolves, the same animals we see here on our own planet....

[Propwash50]

Originally posted by Nephelim:

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Wolves and bears are supposed to work together to kick your butt. Nothing is broken, therefore there's nothing to correct. It's working as intended.

How on Earth would you know? Are RW parsing through forum posts to find the tragic defenders of every flaw in the game and promoting them to the design team now?

Because we can tell a few things about games. The bears and wolves are not actively hunting together. You can clearly see this in game mechanics. If you shoot a wolf with a bow, non stealthed, you will notice that every other aggressive animal within a certain radius will also aggro you. When its literally how they programmed it I think its safe to assume thats how they intended it to work. Thats how on earth we would know.

What I dont like, is when I shoot a bear in the butt from 200 yards away hidden in brush the bear instantly knows my exact location and charges directly. But almost EVERY game does this with the AI. The AI here work no differently then most games out there.

[Propwash50]

Originally posted by Crystal:

Originally posted by Trik:

I dont know how do you get in this mess? how do you manage not to see animal around ?

I asked one of my teammates this recently and found out they turned off in game sound and were listening to some metal bands, because he didnt think in game sound mattered.

Oops. XD

THIS. I think a lot of people complaining about ninja bears are doing this same thing. Then complaining about something they caused.

[icosiel]

Glad I'm not the only one, the current spawn system is absolute BS. Bears are rarely alone, there is always another predator in close vicinity with them or magically manifest near by.

Had a clear area where I was getting on with a mission when a bear spawned in, kept my distance and tried to get on with things. Was skinning a deer when a bear appeared out of nowhere, I have the perk that shows health bars so I knew the area should have been safe. Anyway, nearly killed the bear when the previously clear area spawned in a pack of 3 wolves to deal with as well as the bear.

Not sure if it's just dodgy code overcompensating or the devs trying to artificially ramp up the hardness level to increase challenge. Either way, my patience is wearing thin and I'm pretty sure it always wasn't like this.