Concrete and Aluminium building pieces

[Redfang]

Do the concrete building pieces get damaged by storms and severe winds or are the like the stone pieces and don't get damaged by weather, also same question about aluminium.

[BackseatHike]

I'm also curious about this

[☥ Docdra ☥]

Don't know about the storms, but I'v'e read complaints that the bears can tear through that stuff as easily as they do the thatch structures.

[Redfang]

just tried aluminium and they do get damaged from storms a bit which is strange for a T3 building piece to get damaged from storms but they do make a decent animal barricade haven't tried concrete yet

[Osnauticus]

Concrete is immune to storms, but has less hp than stone because the devs didn't buff it when they buffed stone (whoops).

Aluminum is still vulnerable to storm damage. It used to be the lightest material but they changed wood\stone and I'm not sure if that's true anymore.

[Redfang]

haven't tried concrete but if it has lower hp than a T2 it is rather stupid for it to be a T3 it should have highest HP out of all building material

[Osnauticus]

It used to have more than stone but during BW5 or 6 they buffed stone to the current 2500 value. Because the devs are very derpy they didn't even look at concrete, aluminum or glass. I'm sure eventually they'll remember...maybe.

[Redfang]

i hope so it is a bit pointless to have a low HP T3 and a high HP T2 especially since concrete is harder to craft than stone and aluminium needs a HP buff too

[DMCain]

Concrete is totally immune to storm/wind damage, falling tree damage and has a higher insulating value than stone (2x i believe). It is also more difficult for animals to detect you inside a concrete structure. They still can, but the have to be much closer, pretty much right outside your door.

[labbuuba]

update: concrete walls now have 4000hp while stone has 2500hp

[william_es]

Originally posted by Osnauticus:

Concrete is immune to storms

Sorry, that's not 100% true. In some of the extreme storm areas on the Styx map, concrete can take damage. Styx has the most extreme weather events of any of the maps.

[Dallas]

Originally posted by william_es:

Originally posted by Osnauticus:

Concrete is immune to storms

Sorry, that's not 100% true. In some of the extreme storm areas on the Styx map, concrete can take damage. Styx has the most extreme weather events of any of the maps.

Interesting, i've done about 100 hours open world on the styx map on hard and built in all biomes in concrete with hardened glass walls protected by concrete over hangs, and so far at least, even on red storms i haven't had any damage. From what you're saying though it could happen. I assume the red storm is the most severe? Or, are there areas that have more severe storms than others?

[Newsush]

Originally posted by Matticus:

Do the concrete building pieces get damaged by storms and severe winds or are the like the stone pieces and don't get damaged by weather, also same question about aluminium.

i do believe that concrete building do not take damage from storms i have tested it out and all the storms no damage with using concrete building it just alot of grind for them

[Rekal]

Originally posted by william_es:

Sorry, that's not 100% true. In some of the extreme storm areas on the Styx map, concrete can take damage. Styx has the most extreme weather events of any of the maps.

There's nothing above a tier 6 (red) storm in the game currently. Styx or otherwise. So Concrete - a Tier 8 building piece - cannot be damaged directly by wind damage.

Wind damage is the chip damage your building takes periodically during a storm. Concrete has no wind damage resistance listed in the stats because it takes zero wind damage while all the other pieces typically have it listed.

A tier 6 storm can over match a tier 6 building piece though. So Stone, Clay, Scoria, Socria Brick, Reinforced Wood, and Reinforced Glass can all take wind damage during a tier 6 storm.

Now snow build-up can collapse a flat roofed building piece without enough support whether it's concrete or not. Snow build up reduces it's structural integrity so you see the piece get progressively larger cracks as the snow accumulates until it wobbles and collapses just like when trying to build further and further from support. This is not technically storm damage though.

[Dallas]

Originally posted by Rekal:

There's nothing above a tier 6 (red) storm in the game currently. Styx or otherwise. So Concrete - a Tier 8 building piece - cannot be damaged directly by wind damage.

Wind damage is the chip damage your building takes periodically during a storm. Concrete has no wind damage resistance listed in the stats because it takes zero wind damage while all the other pieces typically have it listed.

A tier 6 storm can over match a tier 6 building piece though. So Stone, Clay, Scoria, Socria Brick, Reinforced Wood, and Reinforced Glass can all take wind damage during a tier 6 storm.

Now snow build-up can collapse a flat roofed building piece without enough support whether it's concrete or not. Snow build up reduces it's structural integrity so you see the piece get progressively larger cracks as the snow accumulates until it wobbles and collapses just like when trying to build further and further from support. This is not technically storm damage though.

This is very helpful, thanks! The snow build up on flat roofed buildings is an interesting one. I have a number of 8x8 concrete buildings with flat concrete roofs built in arctic regions. I use the flat roofs to place my wind turbines. They do get a lot of snow at times. Also supporting the 8x8 concrete tiles is just one central concrete pole (other than the poles on the walls). So far so good, but i'm wondering if this may break at some point?

[Rekal]

Originally posted by Dallas:

This is very helpful, thanks! The snow build up on flat roofed buildings is an interesting one. I have a number of 8x8 concrete buildings with flat concrete roofs built in arctic regions. I use the flat roofs to place my wind turbines. They do get a lot of snow at times. Also supporting the 8x8 concrete tiles is just one central concrete pole (other than the poles on the walls). So far so good, but i'm wondering if this may break at some point?

8x8? That's enormous for a single room. Does it even count as shelter to the benches in the corners? That should be more than 10 blocks from the opposite corners.

Personally I wouldn't trust a flat 8x8 but I guess technically it seems feasible with vertical beams. I think the limit for concrete is one away from support, so if you have supported vertical beams in the outer wall directly touching the roof pieces and one in the middle then all of the pieces are only one away from a support. Being higher off the ground would lower this I think as structural integrity drops as you go higher.

My experience on the 'way to go idiot' scale was with a concrete 3x3. Four foundations in the corners, single high walls all around and nine flat roof pieces while I sat and waited through a storm while the drills were pulling up exotics. The center roof piece collapsed on me from the snow right onto my fire. Much cold was had. It wasn't even a 4+ storm just lots of snow. The broken piece was two away from a direct support as I had no vertical beams in the wall. The other roof pieces didn't break as they were only one away from support.