"Insufficient water input" with long water pipes

[Soylent]

The nearest water to my base is about half a square aware on the map, so I ran a long pipe all the way. But my bio-fuel composter says "Connected to water network but insufficient water input". I assume this is due to the distance? If so, what exactly is the longest distance I can lay a water pipe?

[Tireslayer]

It will also say that if it’s connected but the pump doesn’t have power, let’s say sun goes down for solar panel or biofuel can runs out on generator for example, I haven’t had a distance issue yet myself but I usually build on or near water

[william_es]

Not to drag your post off topic, but have you tried placing the water pump in the water inside caves?

and should the developers add a well?

Some structure we can build that creates a water source somewhere. Tier 2. Most wells are lined with stone, and stone building parts are in tier 2. Wells are not hi-tech things, very ancient/medieval.

Possibly a concrete well, that we can actually place a water pump "on" or "inside" of it, to pump water from it.

Or if not a well, then sort of "drill" pump. Something we deploy, and it drills down to the water table and pumps up water. Make it tier 4 or something, but give us an option.

[Tireslayer]

Originally posted by william_es:

Not to drag your post off topic, but have you tried placing the water pump in the water inside caves?

and should the developers add a well?

Some structure we can build that creates a water source somewhere. Tier 2. Most wells are lined with stone, and stone building parts are in tier 2. Wells are not hi-tech things, very ancient/medieval.

Possibly a concrete well, that we can actually place a water pump "on" or "inside" of it, to pump water from it.

Or if not a well, then sort of "drill" pump. Something we deploy, and it drills down to the water table and pumps up water. Make it tier 4 or something, but give us an option.

Just moved my pump from lake to a cave to check after seeing this, yes you can run the pump out of a cave pond so long as the water is deep enough and there's enough room for it to fit without colliding

[Soylent]

I went all the way back to check the lines and pipes, and everything was connected. But I noticed the water pump was running but wasn't supplying water. After a moment, it showed it was supplying water without me doing anything.

So my theory is that perhaps due to the distance, that part of the map "unloaded" after I left, so when I plugged it into the generator back at my base, it didn't update the water pump's status.

[nemisis]

can you double or triple the pumps to the same line? I got a single pump watering a dozen planters and all the water benches with the pump about 60 floor squares away... seems to be working fine so far. Just wondering if adding more pumps does anything or is the hose limited by length and volume?

[william_es]

Originally posted by nemisis:

can you double or triple the pumps to the same line? I got a single pump watering a dozen planters and all the water benches with the pump about 60 floor squares away... seems to be working fine so far. Just wondering if adding more pumps does anything or is the hose limited by length and volume?

He thinks it might be far away chunk unloading. So the pump sort of ceases to exist until you get closer to it and the game loads that area back in. If that is what's happening, there's not a lot of fixes for that.

[nemisis]

Originally posted by william_es:

Originally posted by nemisis:

can you double or triple the pumps to the same line? I got a single pump watering a dozen planters and all the water benches with the pump about 60 floor squares away... seems to be working fine so far. Just wondering if adding more pumps does anything or is the hose limited by length and volume?

He thinks it might be far away chunk unloading. So the pump sort of ceases to exist until you get closer to it and the game loads that area back in. If that is what's happening, there's not a lot of fixes for that.

is there a config file somewhere to enlarge the draw distance or chunk load area?

[Daemonfall]

Ok, I think I figured this out. I had a water pump in a cave that was doing this exact thing. I verified it had power and everything. It was supplying water outside the cave for a short distance, but the long-distance pipes weren't carrying water back to my main shelter. Once I moved the water pump outside of the cave to the nearby pond, all of the long-distance pipes started working, and my main shelter had water.

[Daemonfall]

I dunno, could be a fluke too. I added a connection to my existing water network, by adding a node along the current pipe. It looked connected, but it wasn't providing any water. I ran some pipes from an existing node on the network and then it worked fine.

[Soylent]

Originally posted by Daemonfall:

I dunno, could be a fluke too. I added a connection to my existing water network, by adding a node along the current pipe. It looked connected, but it wasn't providing any water. I ran some pipes from an existing node on the network and then it worked fine.

It's possible that you running the pipes again had effectively loaded all the map chunks. In my case it started working without me changing anything, just running along the pipe network back to the pump

[Raven.Fish]

Originally posted by william_es:

Not to drag your post off topic, but have you tried placing the water pump in the water inside caves?

Well F*ck me.

You should see the elaborate piping that I made along a cliff side to the nearest pond, modeled after the Alaskan Pipeline. Only to read this and realizing I'm sitting next to two caves.

Hats off to you sir.
..because I'm too dumb to wear one.

[william_es]

Originally posted by Raven.Fish:

Originally posted by william_es:

Not to drag your post off topic, but have you tried placing the water pump in the water inside caves?

Well F*ck me.

You should see the elaborate piping that I made along a cliff side to the nearest pond, modeled after the Alaskan Pipeline. Only to read this and realizing I'm sitting next to two caves.

Hats off to you sir.
..because I'm too dumb to wear one.

Naw, all good man. We've all been there. In the beginning, I just assumed the water in the caves wasn't deep enough for a pump, and I never even tried. Then I did, and it worked. I had my own "well F*ck me" moment then.

Right now I'm trying to figure out hacks for water in the null sector. My bright idea is to bring a solar panel, and a freezer. Let it make ice continually, and then melt the ice in a fire into a thermos. Neverending water.

[КрендельФигов]

Originally posted by william_es:

Right now I'm trying to figure out hacks for water in the null sector. My bright idea is to bring a solar panel, and a freezer. Let it make ice continually, and then melt the ice in a fire into a thermos. Neverending water.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1149460/discussions/0/4703539236099239846#c4703539342753153926

[Zing]

Fiddled around with pipes for a while until I realised the game respects physics. Water cannot run upwards and on flat surface, the source need to have a certain amount of "pressure".
Try adding a biofuel water pump to get it to flow in the direction you desire. Otherwise place your water source at elevation and drag pipes from there.

[КрендельФигов]

I'm afraid, but at the moment Icarus does not have 'height physics' for liquids.