Is this a joke?

[Blubb340]

well, 7 or 8 euro would be ok maybe, but 21? that is a complete joke. its standart rpg maker style. I could make that myself in a couple of days with the software.

how is this a fair price?

I won't buy it until the devs realize that.

.....

[Darke]

It's a licenced Japanese game from a Japanese publisher in Japanese. (Yeah, too much Japanese in that sentence, but, English. /shrug) It's only 3000 yen here which is about what I would be expecting, if it were the English translated version it'd probably be released for USD15-20.

"Real" games are nomally 8000+ yen per game but you'd normally buy the English translated version for USD40-60 even though the direct conversion is about USD75.

Anyway, yeah, games are expensive in Japan. :/

[askasys]

RPG Maker is a tool for us non-developers to create ours games without knowing how to code.

Today: Developers use RPG Maker to create games and sell them on Steam and PS4.

[Blubb340]

The Problem that I have with this game is that the trailer shows regions with only the standard rpg maker tiles, nothing self made. even with cool cutscenes, this is so far away from 21€.

[MurxusMaximus]

Originally posted by chrnodroid:

RPG Maker is a tool for us non-developers to create ours games without knowing how to code.

Today: Developers use RPG Maker to create games and sell them on Steam and PS4.

:lunar2019crylaughingpig:

And Basic was a crutch to help those lazy students who couldn't speak machine code to write their first Hello World.

Also I daresay that very few amateurs include 700 cutscenes in their games.

[Blubb340]

700 cutscenes? I'm currently playing the game and I still wait for the first "cutscene". There are no cutscenes. Or do you mean the simple pictures that were captured? That is not a cutscene.

[Falcus]

Originally posted by chrnodroid:

RPG Maker is a tool for us non-developers to create ours games without knowing how to code.

Today: Developers use RPG Maker to create games and sell them on Steam and PS4.

:lunar2019crylaughingpig:

People who use RPG maker with no coding are who give RPG maker a bad rep. It's lazy development. You can do so much in the engine yet so many people are too lazy to add their own stuff and simply use what is there already or add in some custom assets. Most of what is shown in this game appears to be standard RPG maker with a few custom assets thrown in. For the most part it appears to have generic assets.

Yeah, adding in some screenshots is not really groundbreaking either. This game appears extremely lazily made. Either that or they had a team of 3~ people.

[Valusmax]

from what ive found online the game was actually made by one guy and is a free download....
i found that out after already purchasing it on steam.... and there is also another version of the game, thats also a free download... Search m TSOULI in youtube there are links in his videos

[Mr J]

Wish I had seen that earlier!

[Wraith_Magus]

Originally posted by Falcus:

Originally posted by chrnodroid:

RPG Maker is a tool for us non-developers to create ours games without knowing how to code.

Today: Developers use RPG Maker to create games and sell them on Steam and PS4.

People who use RPG maker with no coding are who give RPG maker a bad rep. It's lazy development. You can do so much in the engine yet so many people are too lazy to add their own stuff and simply use what is there already or add in some custom assets. Most of what is shown in this game appears to be standard RPG maker with a few custom assets thrown in. For the most part it appears to have generic assets.

Yeah, adding in some screenshots is not really groundbreaking either. This game appears extremely lazily made. Either that or they had a team of 3~ people.

Apparently, Kadokawa owns Enterbrain, who make/own RPGMaker, so this is quite an incestuous project all around. Since Kadokawa owns the rights to the anime, adding those screencaps from the anime they advertise directly into the game are free, and they get to count this as advertisement to their game engine, as well.

Anyway, the thing about RPG Maker is that I tend to only find good RPG Maker games when they aren't proper RPGs. Games that are basically point-and-click adventures in RPG format in RPG Maker tend to be interesting and potentially great games, since there's a good reason why someone with a good story to tell may be lacking in programming chops or just needs to use existing assets just to save on their shoestring budget. Straight classic-style RPGs in RPGMaker tend to be a sign of laziness on the developer's part, because someone out to do something new and interesting from a programming standpoint tend to find RPG Maker more confining than helpful, and they'll just spring for Unity or something, instead. The ones who just use default assets tend to be the lazy ones who can't be bothered to make a decent story.

[Tarwix]

Originally posted by valus_6:

from what ive found online the game was actually made by one guy and is a free download....
i found that out after already purchasing it on steam.... and there is also another version of the game, thats also a free download... Search m TSOULI in youtube there are links in his videos

The mtsouli one is different than this. His is a single person fan-made unauthorized game with several escalating releases and supporting youtube videos. I'd like to play it, but I personally can't get a working RAR file of the most recent one, and I'm waiting for him to reply to an email about it. It is not what's here on Steam.
The game here on Steam is an authorized game, and like an earlier poster mentioned is basically an incestuous arrangement between Kadokawa and Enterbrain. I'm actually holding off on buying it until I at least get through what could be considered the demo, another authorized game you can get for FREE at http://shieldhero-anime.jp/en/special/ But I'll warn you that the storyline is probably much shorter than this one, some of the items don't do what they claim, and at least one probably-important message is in Japanese rather than English.
It's more like v1.0 for the free authorized one, v2.0 for the Steam one, and Release MT5 for the free unauthorized one. So, please don't get them confused.

[Zanderfel]

Originally posted by Tarwix:

Originally posted by valus_6:

from what ive found online the game was actually made by one guy and is a free download....
i found that out after already purchasing it on steam.... and there is also another version of the game, thats also a free download... Search m TSOULI in youtube there are links in his videos

The mtsouli one is different than this. His is a single person fan-made unauthorized game with several escalating releases and supporting youtube videos. I'd like to play it, but I personally can't get a working RAR file of the most recent one, and I'm waiting for him to reply to an email about it. It is not what's here on Steam.
The game here on Steam is an authorized game, and like an earlier poster mentioned is basically an incestuous arrangement between Kadokawa and Enterbrain. I'm actually holding off on buying it until I at least get through what could be considered the demo, another authorized game you can get for FREE at http://shieldhero-anime.jp/en/special/ But I'll warn you that the storyline is probably much shorter than this one, some of the items don't do what they claim, and at least one probably-important message is in Japanese rather than English.
It's more like v1.0 for the free authorized one, v2.0 for the Steam one, and Release MT5 for the free unauthorized one. So, please don't get them confused.

Oh, you can open it with PowerISO - I downloaded his version of the game through two different browsers, but WinRAR kept giving "damaged or broken" error. Then I opened it with PowerISO and extracted that way, it worked.

So, try that.

[Mr J]

So, wait. Let me make sure I'm understanding this correctly. m TSOUL! was the creator behind the original game (which was a fangame, obviously), but from what I heard, he sold his work to the Kadokawa corporation, which owns the studio that makes RPGMaker. Apparently, there was also a separate Shield Hero rpg that was sponsored over this one. But m TSOUL!'s still been updating his own version of the game, even giving it a new title, "Rise! Shield hero!" Isn't he worried about getting sued?

[Mat2]

Originally posted by Darke:

It's a licenced Japanese game

As mentioned above, this is untrue because they own the IP rights to the franchise. Kadokawa should leave game development to their subsidiaries who actually make games like From Software or licence holders like Bandai Namco...