Theseus is too easy to cheese

[ani444]

Once Asterius is defeated (personally I always deal with him first) it isn't very difficult to cheese Theseus for the rest of the fight. Stay close to a pillar, wait for him to aim his spear throw, go behind the pillar, his spear bounces off of it and he turns around, attack him, move back into position and then rinse and repeat until he's dead. There are certain factors that decide how effective this strategy is such as your weapon, boons and which god Theseus calls for help but for the most part these mainly just decide how long the fight takes.

Maybe having his spears pass through or break the pillars during his second phase or his second phase giving him an extra move or two to give his attack patterns more variety would lessen this issue and make the second half of the fight more interesting.

[lifetake]

A good suggestion I have for you is if you've beaten the game to use the pact of punishment of extreme measures. It changes up the boss fights. You'd have to go 3 parts deep to change this boss fight.

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

I think I've said this somewhere before (or someone had) but I don't think Theseus is necessarily supposed to be challenging by himself as much he is when he's with Asterius.

The God assistance pretty much forces the player to deal with Asterius first, who as we know from the midboss fight is pretty basic as well.

So Theseus' role is to distract you and to make things difficult while you're trying to fight Asterius.

[lifetake]

Originally posted by Morton Koopa Jr.:

I think I've said this somewhere before (or someone had) but I don't think Theseus is necessarily supposed to be challenging by himself as much he is when he's with Asterius.

The God assistance pretty much forces the player to deal with Asterius first, who as we know from the midboss fight is pretty basic as well.

So Theseus' role is to distract you and to make things difficult while you're trying to fight Asterius.

agree here. Alone they are pretty simple together they are a force to keep you watching and for inexperienced players is quite a gate I've learned form keeping track on this forum and reddit of pleyers struggling but then learning and having the easiest time.

I also feel like all the boss fights teach you to deal with the final boss of Hades. The furies teaching following the boss and countering attacks. Hydra teaching dealing with adds and theseus and asterius teaching focusing on damage sources coming from across the arena Hades skulls

[Ashtarte]

Line of sighting the throw is intended mechanics and should remain. It's not "cheese" it's how you are supposed to win the fight if you're a less skilled player that can get the dash dodge down.