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Stuck at The Minotaur and Theseus arena boss fight in Elysium
is this just a matter of getting gud or is there strategy to beating this?
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Цитата допису Big Mad Wolf:
Цитата допису Suzaku:
A bit of both. The main tips given are to use the pillars to block Theseus' javelin throws, and to focus down the bull as quickly as possible so you can get the fight down to a 1v1.

I kind of prefer to kill Theseus first, in his enraged mode summoning god powers all the time he is far more annoying than the bull? Even more because certain god powers are clearly more dangerous than others. If you time your dashes well you can make the bull rush into a wall and get stunned for a bit after all.

In general it helps to have some Athene skills, so you have the ability to parry certain attacks and also getting the revives from the permanent upgrades.

Theseus's call being dangerous is the exact reason you *dont* kill him first. He only does that when he gets to half health, so if you leave him alone, he has exactly two attacks he can do, and if you kite the bull away from him, he has only one he can do, and that is far easier to dodge than the full suite of bull attacks. Once it is just Theseus, you are free to focus him down without distractions; this also typically gives enough time to Greater Call him, which can often kill him before he finishes casting.
Цитата допису Big Mad Wolf:
Цитата допису Suzaku:
A bit of both. The main tips given are to use the pillars to block Theseus' javelin throws, and to focus down the bull as quickly as possible so you can get the fight down to a 1v1.

I kind of prefer to kill Theseus first, in his enraged mode summoning god powers all the time he is far more annoying than the bull? Even more because certain god powers are clearly more dangerous than others. If you time your dashes well you can make the bull rush into a wall and get stunned for a bit after all.

In general it helps to have some Athene skills, so you have the ability to parry certain attacks and also getting the revives from the permanent upgrades.

Most of the players probably kill Atreus first, and that's definitely what you're supposed to do. Having to deal with him + gods raining on you + the bull is the hardest this fight can get, so avoiding it makes sense.

Also, Atreus is clearly the bigger threat in the fight. He actively chases you, his attacks hurt and offend a large area. All Theseus does is he throws a spear at you from time to time that is very well telegraphed and avoided with a dodge or just by hiding behind the pillar. And when you get close to him he does a single AOE attack, which you can avoid by just not getting close to him, or a single dodge.

When you're focusing Atreus, Theseus does not make things much more difficult as a result. On the other hand, when you try to focus Theseus, Atreus is a significantly bigger annoyance that cannot be avoided, he WILL come to you. You also make Theseus do his AOE which is harder to avoid than his throw. There really is zero reason to focus Theseus first, unless you actively want to make the fight harder.
Автор останньої редакції: DaBa; 5 лип. 2023 о 5:31
i'd focus the bull first then theseus, just dont be greedy and focus on pillar-block javelins or you will be hit a lot

when the bull is dead theseus alone is stupidly easy since he only has 2 attacks: the javelin throw followed by a slow walk in the opposite direction that you will use to hit him and one forward aoe attack, after that one he will stand still for like 2-3 seconds so you dash behind him and get 2-3 hits on him then repeat until he dies

aslo when theseus is at half life he will use one random god power. most of these are easy to dodge/avoid just sticking to the walls or just dashing. its a good time to hit him since he will be completely still casting it for like 5-6 seconds.
Автор останньої редакції: ⭕⃤ BIPPO; 5 лип. 2023 о 1:50
A bit of strategy. Theseus has pretty good aim, but aims slowly, I find it to be most reliable to either hide behind a pillar, or make sure to be on the move when he throws his spear. While doing that you'll likely have opportunities to attritt Minos or Theseus. Usually Minos is my first target, but depends a little on weapon and build.
bro i just got a build with the rail gun where its special deals 700 dmg a hit, pure luck
Kill the bull first, them go after Teseus, be careful and don't rush things just pay attention to your character to see if hes going to take damage and you'll be fine
Цитата допису FredDie:
Its like 2 mechanics fight, its embarassing to even post this bro!! Just man up and try harder.

Watch out people, we have a gamer here ...
Focus on the minotaurus and take him down as quickly as possible, also i strongly recommend ya to focus more on avoiding theseus and dodging his attacks and i mainly tell ya this because that little sassy gladiator wannabe will parry'n block the majority of the attacks, which does forces the player to deal with him in a more calm situation.
If you manage to send asterius to the graveyard (nah joking the bull's already dead haha) and you're low on health try to take some distance and study his attack scheme.
Also some good old "hit and run" tactic could work.
I did manage to beat them on my first try if i remember correctly but damn, i had some nasty stuff on like almost full Hermes power up.
I was fast as ♥♥♥ boi
Good luck on your next run! :D
Цитата допису Babbles:
Цитата допису FredDie:
Its like 2 mechanics fight, its embarassing to even post this bro!! Just man up and try harder.

Watch out people, we have a gamer here ...

Your mom thinks so...
This fight was a wall for me until recently, now I'd say that I've got the hang of it. This is just based on my experience.

Definitively kill the minotaur first, you don't want to deal with his charges while trying to dodge Theseus ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ god attack. Besides he's the one that will actively chase you, so taking him out first will help. Also, if you manage to find and beat the minotaur alone, he'll have a bit less of health later.

The minotaur has basically two attacks: the charge and the combo. He usually grunts or makes some kind of noise like that when he's about to charge. When he does, try to make him crush against the obstacles or against a wall. It takes a bit of time to get the timing right. If he's too close, just dodge away until you have enough distance.

Most of the time he'll be doing his combo, two swipes and then the jump attack. If you're far enough you should dodge to the sides, but if you're too close to him try to dodge towards him, since he'll move forward when he starts the attack. A lot of the times he'll repeat the jump attack 3 times, he's very vulnerable after doing that.

Theseus has basically 3 attacks. If you're far from him he'll use the spear. You'll see the crosshair on you and you have time to notice it. But sometimes you're too distracted with the minotaur or you'll dodge at the wrong time, so in my opinion try to put an obstacle between Theseus and you as long as you can. After throwing the spear he turns around, so you can safely hit him then.

The second is his round attack, which he'll do if you're close enough to him. He'll telegraph it with a faint white circle. Like the minotaur combo I think you should move to the sides, but if you're too close dash towards him because like the minotaur, he'll move forward.

And his 3rd attack is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ god call. Each god has its own pattern, some are easier and some are harder so you'll just have to get used to them. First they do a big barrage, and then they'll follow the same pattern.
Some that I remember are: Zeus will throw lightning in your general direction, Athena will attack in a circular pattern, first from the outermost part and then from the inner part, Artemis will hit almost all the center of the arena and Demeter will summong rings that grow larger.

Also, you usually have some time to hit Theseus a couple of times between his attacks and that of the god, you just have to get the timing.

I think this is all the useful information I can give. The rest is practice and getting used to it.
Upgrade that darkness and keep on dying. Just keep it up and don't give up. That's how I started to turn the tables on them.
Цитата допису Josefthetigerandthefish™:
I was stuck for awhile as well but you will get on eventually. And tip target Theseus 1st:zagsnooze:
I usually take out Mino first. I get by them pretty regularly.
Indeed focus on the the Asterius the Minotaur, first.

Personally, I find the ability to Charm granted by Aphrodite one of the best abilities in game. Charm Theseus and concentrate on the Minotaur. I also like the deflection during dash from Athena and the debuffs from Dionysus. Actually my first several breakthroughs included a build based on either Aphrodite or Dionysus, or both.
I also strongly recommend killing Asterius first. For all the reasons mentioned, but also because if you kill Theseus first he goes super sayan and becomes insanely hard. Biggest tip I have is that yes, the god call phase is annoying, but also entirely skippable. I always save *something* for it, whether that’s a keepsake (usually is, either Meg or Than does the job) or a fully charged Artemis or Aphro call. His shield flashes before the invul drops and you can use that to line up your timing and insta-gib him. That’s not the speed run strat of course but it does make that final section entirely free, so imho it’s safer.
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