Dodge chance v.s. current final boss

[Bardharr]

Is dodge chance disabled for the boss?

In my last run I stacked dodge using the new fist weapons + Lambent Plume. In the end I had dodge chance from the fists (15%), a common Hermes boon (15%) and the plume (26,4%). So a total of 56,4% or 46,8% dodge chance depending on how stacking dodge works in this game (unclear).

Was full life/respawns at the time so I decided to facetank his twirly swings and count the dodges. Took 11 of them to the face but not one dodge. None of the other attacks got dodged either as far as I know but didn't specifically keep track of it.

Is this a bug? Intended? Incredible RNG? Or do I just not understand what dodge chance does?

[Garble]

I have also attempted a dodge chance build and it seemed very ineffective as well.
I would like a stats thing that we can look as to see what our total actual stats are for things like attack speed, movement speed, crit chance, dodge chance, etc.

[Cyiel]

Just an idea but "maybe" there a diminishing returns in the formula.

[Chimera]

If that's straight up bad luck from RNG, maybe making it pseudo-random could address some of it!

[Coco was his name.]

yeah, some kind of stats to see the maximum of some stuff would be nice

[Devil Breaker]

I remember dodging him twice in a row (was one hit away from death lol), maybe it's just pure RNG. Btw I had only 15% dodge from Hermes boon.

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

I too have dodged hades' attacks.

The calculations there are probably not accurate either.

[lifetake]

Your dodge chance was 46.8. Are you sure you didn't dodge as other and myself have noted you can dodge hades. This however is the one of things I don't keep stats on of my runs as its just to difficult to keep track

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Originally posted by lifetake:

Your dodge chance was 46.8. Are you sure you didn't dodge as other and myself have noted you can dodge hades. This however is the one of things I don't keep stats on of my runs as its just to difficult to keep track

What is the formula?

[ethertrace]

I experienced the same thing. I had 15% dodge chance from Hermes boon and 15% from Zag aspect fists. I was able to dodge the attacks of the regular enemies that Hades summoned, but I didn't dodge a single one of Hades's attacks. This is new to me as of the update.

[Xilent]

Same I had +15% from fist, 23% from lambent plume, and 20% from Hermès. I got cocky and tried to face tank it only to get shredded. It felt like I was dodging only 10% of time if even that. We need a stat page. It shouldn’t be too hard to implement.

[lifetake]

Originally posted by Morton Koopa Jr.:

Originally posted by lifetake:

Your dodge chance was 46.8. Are you sure you didn't dodge as other and myself have noted you can dodge hades. This however is the one of things I don't keep stats on of my runs as its just to difficult to keep track

What is the formula?

each dodge chance is calculated seperately.

So it doesn't add but times together thus having a stat of not dodging of .85*.85*73.4 and then to get the chance you do dodge you do 1 minus this number

formuala - 1-((1-D1) * (1-D2) * (1-D3))

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

Ah okay thanks.

[Coco was his name.]

Originally posted by lifetake:

Originally posted by Morton Koopa Jr.:

What is the formula?

each dodge chance is calculated seperately.

So it doesn't add but times together thus having a stat of not dodging of .85*.85*73.4 and then to get the chance you do dodge you do 1 minus this number

formuala - 1-((1-D1) * (1-D2) * (1-D3))

how do you know that?

[Bardharr]

Thanks for the replies. As it seems right now mileage varies between people which is exactly what RNG does so for now I'll just chalk it up to bad luck.

As for the question, as I said, I only paid full attention to the 40 damage big swipes since they are easy to keep track of. For that one I'm sure I hadn't dodged one of them.

That being said, did you guys specifically dodge the big swing? I'm thinking that may be undodgable (maybe because it has such a clear telegraph?).

Just because people may be getting the wrong idea: this is not some " booboo game too hurd" post. It's not really relevant but I did defeat hades even after all the facetanking. I just decided to try out the effectiveness of dodge chance which, as it seems, is based on flat RNG.

[Coco was his name.]

I think I dodged that swing a few times due to the after-effect of ruthless reflex