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No, you should meet him regulary on the run, not in chocie rooms or shop.
Also, dialog must be somewhat exhausted. Just play the game and soon enough you will get it.
When you beat them and go for new run, try starting with Posidon item to make him apper as fast as possible. That should fix your problem.
Like many things in this game, your progress starts with new run.
Also reminder that just because you've completed an objective does not mean you will immediately get necessary dialogue.